More Thought on Incels.

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I'm so sorry to hear that from most! I just thought maybe there is a fighting chance if guys decide to read the books and practice.

here is something you should be able to grok- you do music, i am aware. think of how effective it would be to send a tone-deaf person to music school. same for the "mating-deaf" in the population, no amount of coaching or books or willpower is sufficiently helpful, that has been my experience at least.

I would say that likely at least some of these men know that prostitutes are FAR, FAR more likely to be victims of abuse and blackmail enough to where they get turned into a prostitute, or in their case sex slave, than it is likely that any prostitute they come across is willingly, according to their own wishes, doing sex for money.

Therefore, they're afraid of being just another of the many rapists that use her body.

many are going for silicone sex dolls now that they have come way down in price. being able to go through the physical motions papers over a lot of frustrating stuff.

Dire, but very apt observation!

Also because prostitution is illegal in most places

That's true. Well you see couples all the time that are not goodlooking in real life. They don't seem to mind and it seems to work for them. So when it comes to the notion that incels are not goodlooking enough, how non-goodlooking are we talking here, compared to average or below average looking couples?

If Elliot Rodger couldn't get a girl to kiss him, let alone [copulate] him, then he most certainly WAS NOT good-looking. If anything, he was hideous-looking, like I was at his age. So it's unsurprising that girls wanted nothing to do with him.

That said, he was not only ugly, but also an idiot! He lived just a few hundred miles from Nevada, a state with legal prostitution. Most brothels there cost $600 for a [fellatio] and [intercourse]. He could even get an illegal escort in his own city for $300 to $350 per hour.

Also, if he was a son of Hollywood filmmaker, he most certainly had enough money for a plastic surgery. Hell, he lived near Los Angeles, CA, America's epicenter of plastic surgeries! (Although some may argue that it's Scottsdale, AZ.) So surely, he could find a plastic surgeon he could afford. With about $10,000 and 6 weeks of recovery time, he could look better than the most handsome guy at his college. Not to mention, his new looks could serve him until old age, so it'd be a worthwhile investment.

Instead, he chose to do what he did. It is what it is.

But in pictures of Elliot Rogers he's not bad looking at all I don't think. He kind of looks like a bit of a pretty boy, but slight pretty boy does not equal ugly or hideous looking though. So I didn't think that it was his looks that were the problem.

You can make up your own mind





I'm assuming he's part Asian and maybe introverted? He perhaps didn't know how to talk to girls.

Well, he lacks the blatantly sexy look (a.k.a. Chad) that women are naturally aroused by. I know from experience: I was ugly too at his age. I just can't verify it now---I destroyed or deleted almost all my pictures from before age 25, and most of the surviving ones are at my parents' house. In retrospect, it was kind of stupid. But I also didn't want reminders of how ugly I looked staring me in the face.

His race is irrelevant. If here were good-looking, girls would want him. Maybe not to [copulate] on a first date---that's only for alpha males---but at least to make out with at a party. But they didn't. That's the Law of Contrapositive, a.k.a. modus tollens.
if p -> q
~q -> ~p
where p is "he looks good" and q is "girls like him".

IMHO he was an outwardly perfect physical specimen, he was physically beautiful like a statue. unfortunately his insides were plug-ugly.

Well it's just before in previous posts, when the words ugly, or hideous are used to describe an incel, I am expecting them to look like 'The Elephant Man' or not too far off. Instead I would say Rodgers is not bad looking. Not a Chad look, but he's got smooth skin, with no wrinkles much.

i looked pretty hollywood like him decades ago, but like him, it didn't help me at all.

I'm sorry to hear that. But you see women out there though with guys that are not as goodlooking though. For example, a friend of mine, has a husband, who looks like Jonah Hill for example. Now isn't Jonah Hill no more better looking, and perhaps worse looking than Elliot Rodgers?

but jonah hill has megabuck$$$ and is an alpha male and has undeniable savoir faire. there are countless examples of such men with such attractive trophy partners.