Why do almost all 'incels' blame their situation on looks?
techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,184
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi
Blue Monday / Monday FA Monday talking sociological gaps again:
_________________
“Love takes off the masks that we fear we cannot live without and know we cannot live within. I use the word "love" here not merely in the personal sense but as a state of being, or a state of grace - not in the infantile American sense of being made happy but in the tough and universal sense of quest and daring and growth.” - James Baldwin
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,886
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
Incels are house Harkonnen.
Toxic gaming forums and majority of the gaming forum users are misogynistic, racist, homophobic guys that hold views similar to various alt-right groups. The gaming forum moderators are toxic and share and promote toxic masculinity. Incel movement originated from gaming forums and they have created their own community online. Gaming forums should be avoided like the plague because of the toxic masculinity and bad culture associated with gaming forums.
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 32,886
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
Can you point to any sexists posts/threads here: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/
No, it started much earlier. Elliot Rodger just gave it some mass media notoriety.
Here are articles about the history of the Incel subculture, from Vox and the Guardian.
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
- My Twitter / "X" (new as of 2021)
Can you point to any sexists posts/threads here: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/
My guess is that Rainbow_Belle is talking primarily about places like 4chan and 8chan, which aren't "gaming forums" per se, but were among the main centers of a massive multi-forum flame war known as "Gamergate."
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
- My Twitter / "X" (new as of 2021)
No, it started much earlier. Elliot Rodger just gave it some mass media notoriety.
Red Pill and Incel developed from PUA, partially as a reaction to its flaws and partially to address those flaws. When the incels (lowercase) read the PUA e-books without critical thinking and tried out the tactics, it backfired on them. So they reacted. Some by trying to figure out how women actually think, which led to Red Pill, and others by overtly hating women, which led to Incel (uppercase).
Red Pill and Incel developed from PUA, partially as a reaction to its flaws and partially to address those flaws. When the incels (lowercase) read the PUA e-books without critical thinking and tried out the tactics, it backfired on them. So they reacted. Some by trying to figure out how women actually think, which led to Red Pill, and others by overtly hating women, which led to Incel (uppercase).
Men's magazines (a polite euphemism for pornography) had a great deal to do with raising the expectations of adolescent males as to what the girl-next-door was supposed to look like, how she was supposed to act, and what was supposed to attract her. Most young men were disappointed, if not frustrated, when they found out that real women were nothing like those air-brushed and made-up nude centerfold models (a polite euphemism for women who posed naked for pornography photos).
_________________
techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,184
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi
Incels are house Harkonnen.
Nah, they're the guild spice-huffers.
_________________
“Love takes off the masks that we fear we cannot live without and know we cannot live within. I use the word "love" here not merely in the personal sense but as a state of being, or a state of grace - not in the infantile American sense of being made happy but in the tough and universal sense of quest and daring and growth.” - James Baldwin
No, it started much earlier. Elliot Rodger just gave it some mass media notoriety.
Here are articles about the history of the Incel subculture, from Vox and the Guardian.
Interesting. It's awful how a once peaceful & supportive environment changed into hatred against women and even violence and killings.
_________________
Actually the original "Incel" community had a completely separate lineage, according to various online articles about the history of the Incel subculture, including the ones I posted links to earlier (Vox and the Guardian). Apparently the PUA and "Red Pill" influenced its later development, turning it into the male-only misogynistic thing that it is now.
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
- My Twitter / "X" (new as of 2021)
Last edited by Mona Pereth on 20 Aug 2019, 3:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Did you read the articles I linked to?
_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.
- My Twitter / "X" (new as of 2021)
Similar Topics | |
---|---|
Incels 30 times more likely to be autistic, study finds |
28 Feb 2024, 8:19 am |
what is this situation with Narcissists?
in Bipolar, Tourettes, Schizophrenia, and other Psychological Conditions |
01 Mar 2024, 9:55 am |