Do women simply just dislike Aspie men?

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I’m a clerk. I deal with judges and attorneys all day.

They might be “better” than me in their educational accomplishments....but I am not less of a person than they are. And they know I think that way.

You must not let another person know that you feel you are less than that person......because it isn’t true.

And you're not, right? Look who's talking.



My mind just doesn't store unimportant stuff; like discussions in an online forum.

OK - most women are very calculating first. But how do woman see themself towards men? And whats really up with that social hierarchy BS that women are as much into? Without empathy for this it's rather hard to guess.

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I call that sort of music “Fort Hood Metal” because those bands actually play at Fort Hood (I live about 40 or so minutes from there) and a lot of soldiers listen to those bands since they have that “We’ll kick your ass!” attitude to them.

I actually prefer Swans to Sonic Youth. I was hoping to finally see Bad Religion this month until COVID ruined everything. I can make conversations with people at those shows but they don’t form friendships. I sometimes wonder if it’s because I don’t drink or smoke.



I just don’t want to be considered a “creep” just because I struggle socially. It’s like being told I am something bad and need to be shut away.

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I don’t drink or smoke.

Don’t be a fool and start drinking and smoking.

Swans are great. Teenage Jesus and the Jerks might be up your alley too.

I wonder if it's because you don't drink or smoke, or if it's because you only see them at shows?

I can relate to Marknis in this actually:
Well, at least in my community, stereo-typically speaking, religious and devout people are by far less likely to drink alcohol (like drinking too much) and smoke week, even the Christians. Yet, normally you still disagree with a lot of their ideas because you're atheist.

While the strong-headed Leftist atheists, are far more likely to be into : strong alcohol, drugs, tattoos , shrooms and stuff like that; and you still can't fit wit them.

Most NT people often fall in either camp, it's rare to find people who are in-between

I’ve actually met Michael Gira and got a signed CD from him.

Both things seem to be a requirement for socialization beyond just passing conversation. Outside of shows, the only time I encounter these people would be at the record stores in Austin but I don’t really approach people in these situations anymore. I go for CDs instead of vinyl, though, so I wonder if maybe that makes me an odd man out in that avenue.



I live in a largely Baptist area and many of them get biblically themed tattoos as well as blast Ted Nugent’s music.

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Yeah, finding a bar which has a weekly dj night of the music you like is a better place than a big gig: you see the same (often small subset) of folk each week after a while.

To be more clear - beside of eye contact and behaviour is this what people who lack deep empathy do struggle most with. And they may not get why love doesn't counts for women except a girl crushes at a look in your eyes...

Dude,
Not every aspie, nor NT, is "designed" for a significant-other relationship.
You are aiding and abetting the establishment, with its misleading social propaganda campaign, man.

Be an individual,
Know yourself,
Know the social circumstance you have been "dropped" into,
Reevaluate your personal situation,
Toss out the indoctrinated social garbage not relevant to you,
And, if necessary,
Use the opposable thumb that the gods gave you.

Power to the single guys, or gals, dudes and dudesses.

This has been a community announcement by:
"Timewarp" and "The Sexual Relief Centre".

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Yeah but,
You are "Assuming The Position",
To be violated by the establishment, man.
You are assuming the social propaganda expectations.

What if you have a different perspective on the life situation?
What if your personal circumstances make it impossible to conform to social expectations?

Dude.

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First mistake.
Don't generalise.
Not all women are the same.
Not all men are the same.

Not wanting to trigger anyone,
But,
Let me just say that life is predominantly a "Mating Game".
Virtually everything is oriented around this evolutionary fact.

It is a harsh game,
With winners and losers.
That's the fact, Jack.

But not everyone wants or has a need to engage in "The Game".
Not everyone wants to embrace the absurdity.

The reproductive/sexual *instinct* is strong,
But it *doesn't* make it *right*.
Simple clinical/objective evaluation of life's circumstances will show a rational/logical person, that.

The trouble is,
Wisdom is achieved through personal life experience.
Young people simply don't have the experience, usually, that will allow them to transcend the social propaganda/indoctrination/mind-rape, and instinctual drives.

"Such is life", man.

There are lot of hints and many are right. But many of this is just to try to match they way that calculating women judge men for. Guess it's better to cause a girl has a big crush on you at first sight. Otherwise you'll mostly attract the ones who aren't really better then hookers but much more likely to hurt you. Better to become aware of empathy and feelings. Am I wrong?

Hey girls - how do you think about this?

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Man, oh, man,
You were the puppet of "Da Man".
You bought into the whole social hierarchy gig, dude.
Psychedelic machismo-ism

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You seem to be less autistic than most of us.

What I'm suggesting is that by not cultivating any sort of relationship with any of them beyond bumping into them at shows or similar, you're staying an acquaintance with similar tastes, or at least that it will be easier for them to keep you in that box instead of the next one closer. I'd imagine many of them have other people they see regularly, but aren't actually close to. The ones who are more outgoing and social will tend to have bigger circles and sometimes be the bridge between those less social people, but if you're not being dragged around by the hand by one of those people it's easy to witness others forming social bonds without participating, so you gotta force yourself to participate. That's one of the reasons people drink socially, to make it more likely they act contrary to their nature and reach out to someone else. You don't gotta drink, but you do need to act at least a little bit like the people who are, at least sometimes.

I just had two conversations with two strangers I've encountered before. I don't know if either will become friends, but the more often you're seen having friendly interactions with others, the more confident potentially interested strangers are likely to feel that you're approachable and able to have friendly conversation. On the other hand, if you're the guy who every interaction becomes a debate with, that'll hurt you except for potentially attracting other folks who love to argue just because they can.

The guy with a slammed Golf on old Corvette wheels isn't likely to introduce me to a potential partner, but no matter how unlikely it is now, it's more likely than it was when I was just some stranger who had commented on his car once. Building rapport with people just for the sake of building rapport is sometimes a useful skill that has the potential to be of benefit because the more people who know you and know you're decent, the more people who might be willing to help you if the opportunity arises. To quote someone neither of us respects, 'What have you got to lose?'