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20 Feb 2022, 4:00 pm

Oh thanks :).



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20 Feb 2022, 4:23 pm

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The only reason why I wouldn't have it would be that I would be dead. Even if my libido stops, and ability, it won't stop my enjoyment of having such special moments with the one I love. What's your excuse?

Also, you say that things get harder, but there are sexologists to pay, even if you run out of ideas in your adventure of a lifetime, there are specialists who can help, therapists who can work out things getting distant.

Our libido isn't constant, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't know anything about our struggles, ofteness and health.

I'm no feminist, I'm anti religion [how about you?], I'm anti-porn for other reasons than the ones you can think of,

but I think sexualizing of women and not only women, in every media I especially am bothered with when I'm in a commitment is unnecessarily present and noticed. i also think equality is lacking, in that regard, like I already said, there are too many women and men feel entitled to stare regardless of their situation, their interest in someone or their real plans, which is reality after all.


Quite a few points (and they are good ones) but I think you answered your own question (see highlighted bit). As I said, come back and debate this topic when you are 55.

My wife's libido has also changed. It would seem women also lose their libido. On the odd occasion I show my affection but if my touch becomes sexual she resists. So both of us reached that stage, But it doesn't change our love. Love isn't reliant on sex when you have lived together for 20 years and know each other so closely. Once you experience that Rexi then your perception of love changes from physical to spiritual.

On the matter of sexualising women? women are free to express their sexuality. How does porn harm them? We men are visual creatures, Has it effected me psychologically? I don't know? I am always polite to women and I'm not an aggressive individual.

Like I said, you don't know anything about me. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction whatsoever. And I had many people fall out of love with me.

The assumption that if anything in my life changes is based on the fact that I will stop enjoying and wanting sex in my relationship is silly. I don't hold absolute responsibility over what happens in the future in a relationship where I'm not only not alone but I have to share my insights. I don't need to seek you out down to your grave at any of my age and let you know to prove to you I'm serious and I have experience with my heart and more, my intent.

Again, that you are visual is innate and not unique, and doesn't explain choice.

While some take freedom in expressing it, it doesn't mean it should be everywhere in such excess and highly disproportionately to men.

Is love enough? No.
Is knowing each other for 20 years so closely enough? No. Was it enough for you to say your hand is better than your wife? No. I see no difference between being together a night vs 20 years if it ends in that. Guess it's not that different after all. At least for you.


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20 Feb 2022, 4:31 pm

Rexi wrote:
. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction.

Sounds fun.


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20 Feb 2022, 4:57 pm

Also don't understand, why people reap others from their benefits of single life, sustain they want monogamy and lead the person on believing it'll be something special and they're not allowed or have no willingness to explore what they otherwise would by being single, while they have other things on their mind they want to explore and are tempted by such as harems and various different women.

It's a vow for life, that they're getting older or middle age crisis is not an excuse. Through good, bad, sickness and health. Soon as the wife gets sick they can do anything they want with the marriage. And the wife doesn't talk about it in a way that would be worked out. The husband doesn't listen and takes her into account and so on.


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20 Feb 2022, 5:42 pm

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. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction.

Sounds fun.

They were pretty much the same as with, minus the intensity. I didn't have any issue with connecting with people I committed to and giving them my love. It was special just the same. There were additional struggles but didn't make it less just because. One of these relationships was very significant to me. I actually had so much respect and curiosity for that person and all they were, loved exploring her and spending time with her. I never got tired of it. I got depressed at the thought that we might not be able to be together forever. She was just like a sister, but in a romantic way.

That given, love isn't that uncommon or essential for building a foundation and maintaining a relationship in a healthy manner, like I said. There are more important factors.


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20 Feb 2022, 6:19 pm

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Yes, it is not a guide-book or anything of course, but if you read what women read long enough, you will start thinking like a woman in some respects.

Speaking of which, men talk a lot about pleasing and attracting women, without the needs of magazines. Are they turning into women by chance? Or are they leading the trend? Perhaps we are more alike than you think, non-binary. Perhaps you can think unlike a woman while thinking like one.

What in the world is thinking like a woman, and how does it relate to reading magazines you and others deem unhelpful advice? Now if you were to say thinking like a cat, then it would make more sense. Maybe even male cat. They have their own societal norms, or instincts, but even they differ in personality.


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20 Feb 2022, 6:26 pm

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What in the world is thinking like a woman,


It's them Estrogens. Maybe they don't have enough Testosterons.

Heres me thinking in Rexi. :P

Speaking of which, mammalians talk bout pleasing and squeezing, sour grapes? are we turning inside out and upside down by perhaps? trend of jumping on the bandwagon? perhaps apples and oranges, what came first, chicken or the egg?

What is thinking like a woman cat or a female cats, or a neutrino cats?, male cats, Tom tom club, they are genius of love, have basic instinct, of fatal attraction?

Sour puss much?
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21 Feb 2022, 2:55 am

Rexi wrote:
theprisoner wrote:
Rexi wrote:
. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction.

Sounds fun.

They were pretty much the same as with, minus the intensity. I didn't have any issue with connecting with people I committed to and giving them my love. It was special just the same. There were additional struggles but didn't make it less just because. One of these relationships was very significant to me. I actually had so much respect and curiosity for that person and all they were, loved exploring her and spending time with her. I never got tired of it. I got depressed at the thought that we might not be able to be together forever. She was just like a sister, but in a romantic way.

That given, love isn't that uncommon or essential for building a foundation and maintaining a relationship in a healthy manner, like I said. There are more important factors.

can you humor me, and tell me what sorts of things your present S.O. said to you that got your attention?



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21 Feb 2022, 5:16 am

auntblabby wrote:
Rexi wrote:
theprisoner wrote:
Rexi wrote:
. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction.

Sounds fun.

They were pretty much the same as with, minus the intensity. I didn't have any issue with connecting with people I committed to and giving them my love. It was special just the same. There were additional struggles but didn't make it less just because. One of these relationships was very significant to me. I actually had so much respect and curiosity for that person and all they were, loved exploring her and spending time with her. I never got tired of it. I got depressed at the thought that we might not be able to be together forever. She was just like a sister, but in a romantic way.

That given, love isn't that uncommon or essential for building a foundation and maintaining a relationship in a healthy manner, like I said. There are more important factors.

can you humor me, and tell me what sorts of things your present S.O. said to you that got your attention?

Curious myself, actually. :P :heart:
(If it's okay to share.)


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21 Feb 2022, 5:33 am

Rexi wrote:
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The only reason why I wouldn't have it would be that I would be dead. Even if my libido stops, and ability, it won't stop my enjoyment of having such special moments with the one I love. What's your excuse?

Also, you say that things get harder, but there are sexologists to pay, even if you run out of ideas in your adventure of a lifetime, there are specialists who can help, therapists who can work out things getting distant.

Our libido isn't constant, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't know anything about our struggles, ofteness and health.

I'm no feminist, I'm anti religion [how about you?], I'm anti-porn for other reasons than the ones you can think of,

but I think sexualizing of women and not only women, in every media I especially am bothered with when I'm in a commitment is unnecessarily present and noticed. i also think equality is lacking, in that regard, like I already said, there are too many women and men feel entitled to stare regardless of their situation, their interest in someone or their real plans, which is reality after all.


Quite a few points (and they are good ones) but I think you answered your own question (see highlighted bit). As I said, come back and debate this topic when you are 55.

My wife's libido has also changed. It would seem women also lose their libido. On the odd occasion I show my affection but if my touch becomes sexual she resists. So both of us reached that stage, But it doesn't change our love. Love isn't reliant on sex when you have lived together for 20 years and know each other so closely. Once you experience that Rexi then your perception of love changes from physical to spiritual.

On the matter of sexualising women? women are free to express their sexuality. How does porn harm them? We men are visual creatures, Has it effected me psychologically? I don't know? I am always polite to women and I'm not an aggressive individual.

Like I said, you don't know anything about me. I had relationships before based on no passion and no attraction whatsoever. And I had many people fall out of love with me.

The assumption that if anything in my life changes is based on the fact that I will stop enjoying and wanting sex in my relationship is silly. I don't hold absolute responsibility over what happens in the future in a relationship where I'm not only not alone but I have to share my insights. I don't need to seek you out down to your grave at any of my age and let you know to prove to you I'm serious and I have experience with my heart and more, my intent.

Again, that you are visual is innate and not unique, and doesn't explain choice.

While some take freedom in expressing it, it doesn't mean it should be everywhere in such excess and highly disproportionately to men.

Is love enough? No.
Is knowing each other for 20 years so closely enough? No. Was it enough for you to say your hand is better than your wife? No. I see no difference between being together a night vs 20 years if it ends in that. Guess it's not that different after all. At least for you.


What can I say? We are all complicated humans beings.

My only question is why you think there is some pathology in the way some men choose to enjoy women? I think religion and other forms of "isms" has fcked up the way we exress ourselves sexually. The damage has been done.

Looking forward to Virtual reality sex if I am still alive to see it develop.



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21 Feb 2022, 9:16 am

A friend saw me looking at a Tinder profile and noted that the lady in it is 29. She said that's too young.



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21 Feb 2022, 9:19 am

So what?

That’s just one opinion.

I’m certainly not going to go by the opinion of one random person on the Internet who doesn’t know me at all.



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21 Feb 2022, 10:04 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
So what?

That’s just one opinion.

I’m certainly not going to go by the opinion of one random person on the Internet who doesn’t know me at all.


Which is what you are. (No offense)

I wasn't talking about someone on the internet. It is a friend who does know me quite well.



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21 Feb 2022, 12:05 pm

dorkseid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
So what?

That’s just one opinion.

I’m certainly not going to go by the opinion of one random person on the Internet who doesn’t know me at all.


Which is what you are. (No offense)

I wasn't talking about someone on the internet. It is a friend who does know me quite well.


So what?

Do you have a 20 something girlfriend that you're in a relationship for others to judge? And do you take their judgement to heart and base your life decisions on it?

On Christmas, my older brother and his fiancee said I shouldn't date anyone under 28. I laughed. My current crush is 22 or 23 - it's not up to my brother or his fiancee who I'm attracted to or who's attracted to me. If it ever worked out and we dated, I certainly wouldn't end the relationship or refuse to begin it because my brother and his fiancee think they're not old enough. They can live their lives and have their relationship how it works for them & can stfu and butt out when it comes to me or anyone else. OR they can share their opinions for me to laugh at and ignore. Not their life, not their decision.

Same same for your friend. It's not up to your friend who you're attracted to or who's attracted to you - those things just happen. If your "friend," wants to judge you negatively for having a relationship with another consenting adult (29) then they're not such a good friend. I know which one I'd choose to have in my life and which one I'd drop.

But you do you. Do what makes you happy, or do what others tell you who don't have to live your life or your relationships and see how that works out for you.


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21 Feb 2022, 12:30 pm

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So what?

Do you have a 20 something girlfriend that you're in a relationship for others to judge? And do you take their judgement to heart and base your life decisions on it?

On Christmas, my older brother and his fiancee said I shouldn't date anyone under 28. I laughed. My current crush is 22 or 23 - it's not up to my brother or his fiancee who I'm attracted to or who's attracted to me. If it ever worked out and we dated, I certainly wouldn't end the relationship or refuse to begin it because my brother and his fiancee think they're not old enough. They can live their lives and have their relationship how it works for them & can stfu and butt out when it comes to me or anyone else. OR they can share their opinions for me to laugh at and ignore. Not their life, not their decision.

Same same for your friend. It's not up to your friend who you're attracted to or who's attracted to you - those things just happen. If your "friend," wants to judge you negatively for having a relationship with another consenting adult (29) then they're not such a good friend. I know which one I'd choose to have in my life and which one I'd drop.

But you do you. Do what makes you happy, or do what others tell you who don't have to live your life or your relationships and see how that works out for you.



Truth. I never understand why people care about what people think of things like age differences...are they in the relationship? No? Then it's not their place to say. I mean, I am assuming here that both people are of legal consenting age and not in some abusive nonsense, of course. But just two grown adults deciding for themselves what they want...why would anyone care? Why not be happy for the two of them? It's weird to me.

I've been known to have partners who fell out of my age range. My most recent ex was ten years older than me. Age was not a concern either of us had. At the moment I have a fwb who is close to fifteen years younger than I am. No one has said anything to me about it being a negative, but I wouldn't care if they did. The two of us get on just fine, are on the same page with our arrangement, have great chemistry, and enjoy the other's company. As far as I'm concerned, the only opinions that matter about me and him are mine and his. I care about things like compatibility. Age is irrelevant if you have that.



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21 Feb 2022, 12:50 pm

I find that people being sensitive about age gaps to really regressive, like how people in the 50s for example, were against interaccial and homosexual relationships. But what's ironic is, is that in society, it seems to be the progressive liberal types who sensitive to age gap dating, when they themselves are supposed to be progressive. Or at least it just comes across as ironic that way.