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30 Jun 2024, 3:54 am

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Women can also tell when someone is looking at their boobs or whatever even when a guy thinks he’s being discrete about it. Just because we didn’t say anything doesn’t mean we didn’t notice. Viewing women as fellow humans who aren’t all that different is a good idea because it’s true.


I am no mindreader but in my experience most women take no offence if you are "looking at their boobs" as long as it's more like a swift glance and they think you are trying to be discrete. On the contrary, they seem to take it as a validation that you find them physically attractive and it encourages them to take initiatives if they are interested themselves. In my view there is no opposition between respecting women and view them as fellow humans and at the same time find the view of certain parts of their bodies sexually attractive.

I did not consider it flattering in any way whenever I’ve experienced it although I’ve never let on that it bothered me or made me uncomfortable.

Obviously, I’d feel a bit differently if it was someone I was already involved with. Otherwise, I’d prefer to be treated like a male acquaintance. I’m not a mind reader, but I’m pretty sure bros don’t go around checking out other bros’ moobs or butts. I certainly don’t.


Well, everyone is different. But generally speaking, treating women like a male acquaintance is a terrible advice to young men that wants to date women unless they by accident happens to run into you of all people. :wink:


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30 Jun 2024, 7:23 am

Yeah, obviously, talking to a woman one wants to date wouldn’t be exactly the same. There’s flirting and stuff like that. I still think that people should avoid looking at parts of our body. It’s more likely to cause offense than anything else.


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30 Jun 2024, 8:40 am

What about the Bend and Snap?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCEYuM4PsNg

Apparently it works every time.

Except when we're not looking.


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01 Jul 2024, 7:41 am

But, speaking of breasts, a lot of women go to a lot of trouble with their breast presentation.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hskk9orbjs

Ostensibly to attract male attention.

Victoria's Secret makes a fortune on push-up bras. Some women even go in for breast augmentation surgery.

But, men are expected not to notice?


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01 Jul 2024, 8:08 am

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Ostensibly to attract male attention.

Victoria's Secret makes a fortune on push-up bras. Some women even go in for breast augmentation surgery.

It’s not usually about men. Most often, it’s more about what we like and what makes us feel good/confident.

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But, men are expected not to notice?

They can notice, but depending on the extent of their behavior, women may also notice that they are creepy and/or seem entitled and avoid being around them for that reason.


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01 Jul 2024, 10:34 am

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It’s not usually about men. Most often, it’s more about what we like and what makes us feel good/confident.


Why would exhibiting protruding breasts make a woman feel good or confident? Particularly if the male attention is unwanted.


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01 Jul 2024, 11:14 am

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It’s not usually about men. Most often, it’s more about what we like and what makes us feel good/confident.


Why would exhibiting protruding breasts make a woman feel good or confident? Particularly if the male attention is unwanted.

We all have different tastes and preferences when it comes to the appearance of our body, just like we have different tastes with hairstyles. Different bras work with different shirts and dresses too.


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01 Jul 2024, 11:46 am

TwilightPrincess wrote:
Yeah, obviously, talking to a woman one wants to date wouldn’t be exactly the same. There’s flirting and stuff like that. I still think that people should avoid looking at parts of our body. It’s more likely to cause offense than anything else.


It obviously depends how you do it, the overall impression the woman have of you and her general attitude. People will have to find out for themselves what works for them.


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01 Jul 2024, 12:12 pm

In my opinion, a confident woman would feel good about herself regardless of how far out her breasts protruded. Women who go in for something as extreme as breast augmentation surgery are seeking to compensate for a lack of confidence.


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01 Jul 2024, 12:37 pm

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In my opinion, a confident woman would feel good about herself regardless of how far out her breasts protruded.

I wasn’t suggesting otherwise although it’s a complex topic. What someone might enjoy wearing one day might be different the next. It depends on what a person feels like, their mood, and the event. Sometimes I only own one or two push-up bras and the rest are sports bras. The sports bras, while my favorites, don’t work with a lot of tops/dresses. That’s just an example. It’s not about a lack of confidence or trying to attract a man.

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Women who go in for something as extreme as breast augmentation surgery are seeking to compensate for a lack of confidence.

Not necessarily.


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01 Jul 2024, 12:56 pm

It is a bit like some men who go in for the expensive sports cars--either to compensate for a small privy member, or to attract more females.


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01 Jul 2024, 1:01 pm

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It is a bit like some men who go in for the expensive sports cars--either to compensate for a small privy member, or to attract more females.


I guess no one buys a sports car because they enjoy driving fast, it's just to get their little dick wet. :roll:


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01 Jul 2024, 1:03 pm

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It is a bit like some men who go in for the expensive sports cars--either to compensate for a small privy member, or to attract more females.

It’s disappointing that people seem to come to so many conclusions about women based on their breasts alone.


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01 Jul 2024, 3:47 pm

Well, I know a woman who had cancer, and then had her breasts reconstructed. No nipples. She posed nude three times for my life-drawing class. I admired her perkiness and confidence, after all that she had suffered.

On the other hand--I have no admiration at all for the Kardashians.


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01 Jul 2024, 3:52 pm

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I guess no one buys a sports car because they enjoy driving fast, it's just to get their little dick wet. :roll:


Maybe SOME just enjoy driving fast. But those who I've known who had a luxury sports car always wanted everyone to know that they had a luxury sports car. Some women enjoyed riding with them. They felt that the car afforded them an elevated social status. Highways still have speed limits--although your car might be able to run at 200 mph, you're not going to be able to achieve that speed on a highway.


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01 Jul 2024, 4:12 pm

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I guess no one buys a sports car because they enjoy driving fast, it's just to get their little dick wet. :roll:


Maybe SOME just enjoy driving fast. But those who I've known who had a luxury sports car always wanted everyone to know that they had a luxury sports car. Some women enjoyed riding with them. They felt that the car afforded them an elevated social status. Highways still have speed limits--although your car might be able to run at 200 mph, you're not going to be able to achieve that speed on a highway.



I'm not sure you even understand the appeal of having a fun car if your big criticism is that you don't get many opportunities to go that fast on the highway.

Going fast in a straight line isn't really that challenging, so it's not very rewarding for most people. But, accelerating quickly, braking quickly and maintaining a lot of speed through corners tend to be rewarding even if you don't manage to reach top speed.

Roads having speed limits really doesn't interfere with the ability to enjoy your fun car when the road is empty. Speed limits are merely suggestions, your car will accelerate right past whatever number is written on the sign as though the sign didn't exist at all.

Beyond that, people who can afford expensive cars can also usually afford some HPDE time at the local track.

I don't doubt that there are some needledicks who buy performance cars just as a status symbol, but pretending like they're the average performance car owner is an admission of not being familiar with car culture or the people who participate in it.

It's like insisting basement dwelling cheeto-dust covered neckbeards are the typical Star Wars fan because those are the ones you're personally most familiar with. Yes, those guys exist but they're not representative of the typical Star Wars fan, they're just a fun stereotype that some people take too seriously.


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