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Do you like jerks?
Why yes, yes I do. 23%  23%  [ 9 ]
Of course not! Are you insane? 56%  56%  [ 22 ]
I like wimps. 21%  21%  [ 8 ]
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Who_Am_I
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23 Sep 2007, 10:47 pm

Vote. Some reasons would be nice.


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23 Sep 2007, 11:05 pm

i know i do! woops im not a woman :lol:


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23 Sep 2007, 11:23 pm

not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?



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23 Sep 2007, 11:28 pm

If my track record is any indicator, I definitely seem to.



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23 Sep 2007, 11:33 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


One could join the other team....



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23 Sep 2007, 11:42 pm

Depends on the jerk.

I think pretty much everyone is a jerk at some times, under some circumstances.

As for me, dating jerks, historically the pattern seems to be-

When someone has a characteristic that I'm looking for, especially if they have it very strongly, that can cause me to be attracted to them for a time even if they are jerks in other ways.

I'd like to think my standards are improving as I age.


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24 Sep 2007, 12:03 am

calandale wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


One could join the other team....



oh, like there are no jerks on the opposite team? :roll:



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24 Sep 2007, 12:07 am

sinsboldly wrote:
calandale wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


One could join the other team....



oh, like there are no jerks on the opposite team? :roll:


Ah, just another misanthrope then?

Well, cheers. :P



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24 Sep 2007, 12:10 am

calandale wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
calandale wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


One could join the other team....



oh, like there are no jerks on the opposite team? :roll:


Ah, just another misanthrope then?

Well, cheers. :P


my point, my dear, is that jerks are boundless to one 'team' or another. Neither 'team' has a monopoly on jerkiness.

and :P to you too!



24 Sep 2007, 3:54 am

I hate jerks, especially a**holes.



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24 Sep 2007, 3:58 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Vote. Some reasons would be nice.


Women like MASCULINE men, not macho, MASCULINE, there is a difference. Someone who is comfotable in their own skin, and who has a life (i.e. a regular sociable person, has friends, go out and does things).

Someone who will not put up with her BS when she gets childish and put her in her place.
Someone to protect her and who she feels safe around.

They want a guy with a backbone and a spine, nerds tend to be very fearful and anxious because how they were / are treated growing up. What many "nice guys" really want is a quiet mundane life, many girls don't want that (not all). At least when they are young.

You have to find someone that matches your personality and accepts your socio-economic status.



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24 Sep 2007, 4:10 am

likedcalico wrote:
I hate jerks, especially a**holes.


How do you feel about angle fluffy bunnies,
though? :P



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24 Sep 2007, 4:34 am

sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


Yes. Not all guys (or girls) are jerks.
If you think they all are, then you have the choice to stay single.

Zakfiend, I agree with most of your post, but the "putting her in her place"? It makes it sound like girls want a father and not a partner. Relationships should be partnerships, not some sort of power/dominance game (unless that's what you like, I suppose...).
Unless you just meant "sticking up for himself when she's a b****." I'd expect anyone with a backbone to do that; it doesn't make them a jerk.

Now, my answer and reasons.
As a female, I want someone who is secure in themselves, but not a jerk. Jerks give the impression of insecurity, as though they think that if they're too nice or not macho enough that girls won't go for them, or will think less of them, or something. It's ridiculous.


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24 Sep 2007, 6:20 am

This is a really good discussion Who_am_I. I can't answer it but I have noticed something:

The few occasions where I known someone had fancied me (even if I was too inept to act on it), I had either pissed them off or their friends or they suffer from psychosis or where really desperate and drunk and I was annoyed at having to make sure they got home ok.

Recently I have been just been too aware or focused on how I come across. This is just not helping at all. I'm too nice/bland. I don't mean to be a jerk but there is something about truly being yourself that gives off a little bit of controversy that seems to attract for some reason.

One instance goes way back when I was just a teen. I was playing with this girl's gold ring on a table. I was flicking it up the table so it would backspin all the way back. But I got a bit enthusiastic and squashed it (oh s**t!). So she was naturally annoyed with me. There were no real jewellers in this place, all that was available was chunky 'bling' stuff or cheap tat. So I got her a god awful thin chain, rapped it up and gave it to her. I wasn't expecting her to actually wear it, more of a gesture. I remember saying 'It is not because I fancy you, just to say sorry' and this guy said 'Yeh right, whatever'. She forgave me and we used to sit together and have long discussions. Everyone knew she fancied me the only one in denial was me. A long time passed and I didn't make a move. So she got a bunch of her girl friends with her and sat me down at a table and said 'If a girl likes a boy and she thinks he likes her, what should they do?' She was actually wearing that god awful chain for once. I said the 'girl should ask him out’. Wrong answer.

So I’m just trying not to try too hard after a long road of over corrective behaviour. I think it is true that everyone has a jerk inside. Everyone is a contradiction and makes a mockery of their supposed values.



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24 Sep 2007, 8:53 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
not particularly, however, are you implying we have a choice?


Yes. Not all guys (or girls) are jerks.
If you think they all are, then you have the choice to stay single.
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LOL, I have been married three times and have kissed my share of frogs, Who Am I.
I didn't marry any jerks!

Merle



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24 Sep 2007, 9:55 am

My first girlfriend was a jerk, but I will not assume that everyone is.

Tim


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