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21 Apr 2011, 11:02 am

Anyone else find it interesting to say the least, or a place easier to socialize? It's usually full of misfits, so it's easier for me to get along there.



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21 Apr 2011, 12:12 pm

I have to say it depends on what goth scene, since each one is different. Some goth scenes are diverse, open, and friendly, while other ones are homogenized, hyper-elitist, and only welcoming to people with expensive clothes.



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21 Apr 2011, 1:56 pm

Goth people can be more accepting, but my narcissistic girlfriend was one (nightmarish experience) and I've heard from other people that goths are more likely to be narcissistic. I don't know if that's true or not, but people on here have said narcissists love to prey on people like us.



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21 Apr 2011, 2:51 pm

It depends where you are and on the individual people that make up those scenes. Most goths I ever knew were likeable, accepting, and friendly. Then again the goth subculture is no more perfect than any other sector of society. It has its share of as*holes too.


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21 Apr 2011, 4:39 pm

I was goth before it was called goth. It was called Industrial back in the day and was a mix of a death metal look and a vampire look. There was a lot of vampire fascination and none of it as a romantic pansy Twilight thing but actual killing heartless machines like annoying Lestat, beautiful Armand, and emo Marius. Lots of interest in decay, afterlife, magic, The Crow, and so on. Lots of black but fashionable. It was an interesting transition from grunge, which is what I'd been previously into. The "In crowd" that adopted the goth look were too busy being "ravers", listening to Hole and sucking on pacifers, at that time.

With everybody dressing "goth", it just seems like it's trying too hard and I'm just not sure how different it really is from the mainstream for kids.



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21 Apr 2011, 4:53 pm

It can be easier to socialise with other misfits, the goth scene has always been like that and I have many friends who would have gone down a very different path without having come across our local goth and rock scene. However you do tend to get a lot of cliques on the goth and rock scene, I think maybe people on the goth scene are more approachable at first but if you're not careful you do find yourself having nasty run-ins with people from other cliques, you get the 'mean girls' in goth subculture too, and you also have to battle with self-destructive people who are mentally unstable and will bring you down with them if you give them a chance.

Back in my time on the scene goths were black hair and make-up, white skin, lace and crushed velvet outfits, with a hint of punk and a penchant. for depression, death and poetry...these days it's all emo kids with candy necklaces, try-hard scene kids with hair that looks like a five-year-old has had a go with felt-tip pens, and people who look like they've just jumped off Hottopic's web site. It's not the same as it used to be, with so much of it intertwined with mainstream I do think it's changed a lot - or at least it has here.

Yeah, maybe I'm jaded, and a little cynical of that subculture these days.


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21 Apr 2011, 4:58 pm

Dang kids these days ruined goth. Gimme those vampires back until you know how to use them!



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21 Apr 2011, 7:53 pm

wefunction wrote:
Dang kids these days ruined goth. Gimme those vampires back until you know how to use them!

:lol:

I was the same as you. I'm kind of embarrassed about that phase of my life, but it was that phase when I had the most "friends". The thing is, at the point when I decided that dressing up was way too much of a hassle, that's when they stopped liking me. :roll:



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22 Apr 2011, 1:09 pm

Xeno wrote:
I have to say it depends on what goth scene, since each one is different. Some goth scenes are diverse, open, and friendly, while other ones are homogenized, hyper-elitist, and only welcoming to people with expensive clothes.


When I was younger, most of the goth girls came from well-off families. They were basically a variation of the popular crowd, and most of them had the same "package" as popular people (a lot of friends, invited to the cool parties, etc).

There are definately folks on the autism spectrum who are drawn to the goth scene. There are many other spectrum folks who find the goth scene intimidating, not because of the supposed "dark" demeanor, but because of the advanced-level social expectations that go with being part of the goth scene. Again, not all members of the goth scene are this way, but that's how I remember it.



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22 Apr 2011, 8:58 pm

I know quite a few people who would be considered goth, and often went to goth events and parties with my ex boyfriend who considered himself a part of that scene. The people there were quite friendly and accepting of me. The only problem was that some of them were into drugs...the ones I hung around were especially into ketamine. They'd do it at their house parties, and I, regrettably, would join in. :?

I eventually stopped going to their events and parties as I've found that while most of them were nice, they weren't really willing to expaqn their mindsets and personalities beyond the goth subculture. I mean, I liked bits and pieces of it, but definitely not the whole thing. Plus, they were always concerned about their image and coming across in a certian way, which I found fake. And most of the newer music they played at the clubs sucked...I was more of a classic goth who liked Siouxie and the Banshees and The Cure. I kept in touch with a few of the members who liked me for who I was, though.


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22 Apr 2011, 9:11 pm

I've never gotten into the goth scene. It was too much work from the get go, but I've had several goth friends that didn't mind how I dressed.

The thing is, most weren't interested in talking to me if I brought up anything that wasn't 'dark'. I found the whole thing too one dimensional.


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