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mlemonlimen
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29 Apr 2013, 12:58 am

while no one has said it to my face, I think people have thought I was arrogant when there are long awkward pauses in a conversation.



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06 May 2013, 2:45 am

I have been called rude a few times.



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29 May 2013, 3:28 pm

Good gravy, I have heard the most outlandish things about myself because I don't talk! For example, the entire first semester of college, I didn't talk to anyone except for teachers. It was simply self-preservation in that I was bullied relentlessly through high school and I didn't want to even open the door to allow that to happen again; ergo, I just didn't speak.
In addition, I was at college to get my degree, not to socialize. I didn't see any point in interacting as it just distracted me from my work and made things unnecessarily complicated.
Then, in second semester, a girl was talking to me about the coursework and she's like "You aren't that bad." And I kind of gave her a raised eyebrow look and she said "We were all kind of afraid of you in first term because you were like some quiet genius or something." I laughed right out loud!
In addition to this: I have been called aloof, pretentious (I have an extensive vocabulary that makes some people uncomfortable), arrogant, detatched, emotionless, cold... basically any synonym to conceited or distant. People have also said that I am intimidating. I guess they mean mentally because I don't know what is intimidating about a short, bespectacled female with questionable fashion sense!
That being said I also am defined as being "odd" quite frequently.


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29 May 2013, 3:31 pm

I usually have the opposite issue of talking too much, but I'd just like to mention that if someone insisted on calling me arrogant for no good reason, they wouldn't remain my friend for very long...



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29 May 2013, 4:28 pm

Staralfur wrote:
I don't understand people calling someone arrogant for being quiet, can someone explain?

I don't get it either. People say I'm weird and creepy for not talking, but not arrogant.
Good Sigur Ros song too.



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29 May 2013, 7:06 pm

aren't quiet men often stereotype?



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30 May 2013, 12:58 am

Goodness I didn't know I had more replies to this thread. We are no longer friends and I got tired of how he was treating me and he sai he was taking me off his friends and not speaking to me again and he wouldn't take me off his list so I did it for him. I also blocked him and on facebook too. He just got nasty with me all of a sudden because I wouldn't be his online mommy and he was manipulative anyway. Good thing I save IM chats or I wouldn't have figured it out.

I did my effort being patient with him and accepting his difficulties in talking and the fact English isn't his first language but he couldn't do the same to me by accepting my own difficulties.

I did finally tell him I have autism but it was after he had logged off after he threw a fit saying he was taking me off his friends. It didn't change a thing because he still came back just to fight with me and argue so I blocked him and I know he won't go after me under a new account because he refuses to believe people possibly block him and he didn't even know how to do research online or look stuff up. I think his last drama was his manipulation attempt to get me to be his online mamma because I would feel so guilty and it didn't work. I blocked him instead because he said he was taking me off his list and didn't want to be my friend so I did him a favor and he said something nasty about my son anyway and the situation my husband and I were in last summer. he just showed his true colors, I don't need a friend who can't even read what I say and doesn't listen to what I say. I am sure it was one of his games but I don't care. I got tired of his crap and blocked him.


You gotta love diaper creeps. So I left a interesting message in my Fetlife profile about it after someone else was pestering me to help him fin a online momma.

I was giving this man the benefit of the doubt assuming we keep having miscommunications due to English not being his primary language but I am through with that and just think he was being manipulative by claiming I said this and that to him when I never did. Just one of his games and he wanted a momma so bad he was selfish and treated me like crap for it and I made it backfire by blocking him. Plus he would sometimes leave me strange messages on my facebook wall, provocative ones and I always gave it the benefit of the doubt and now I am sure he meant with intention.

Too bad I save IM chats, that makes it harder for people to manipulate me. He had done a good job if I had to look through our conversations to see me saying this or that to him and I saw I never did so I concluded manipulation he was doing. He had me second guessing myself so I had to look and saw it was never said by me. I also never told him he was selfish. He wouldn't tell me anyway when I had called him that when I would ask about it after the accusation.


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30 May 2013, 7:47 am

Reading through all these comments wore me out! People can be so fickle.

I have been called rude and unsociable many times before. At work, a few people don't seem to want to talk to me. Others seem to have presumptions about me, and seem to believe I'm devoid of common sense and incapable of understanding anything, or that I just don't like them. Truth is, I'm pretty indifferent about a lot of people, but I'm not unfriendly... so... I don't know.

Rargh.



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30 May 2013, 8:54 am

Drehmaschine wrote:
Staralfur wrote:
I don't understand people calling someone arrogant for being quiet, can someone explain?

I don't get it either. People say I'm weird and creepy for not talking, but not arrogant.
Good Sigur Ros song too.


Agreed. I am struggling to connect how arrogant can come from quiet.



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30 May 2013, 8:21 pm

Staralfur wrote:
I don't understand people calling someone arrogant for being quiet, can someone explain?


I think it's because we quiet folk are often perceived as being aloof. Therefore, people think that we think we are better than them. As though they are somehow beneath us.

People are constantly labelling anything that doesn't fit the mold.


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02 Jun 2013, 2:57 pm

Wow, this guy sounds very rude, inconsiderate and not very accepting...not to mention a little creepy. Who leaves messages like that on a public facebook wall for everyone to see? Even before you explained you had autism, he should have just either just accepted you for who you are or curiously inquired about you instead of just making assumptions about who you were.


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04 Jun 2013, 9:21 am

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Has anyone here ever been called arrogant for not speaking much to someone?

I talk to a friend online and he takes it very personally when I don't say much because I barely have anything to say and I never know what to talk about most of the time whenever he talks to me. He has called me arrogant several times and then logging off because I wasn't talking to him. I wasn't ignoring him. I just didn't have anything to say. This is the same person who is clingy and gets upset with me when I don't say much and always thinks I am ignoring him or thinks I don't care when I don't carry on the conversation when he shares something with me. I just say "oh" and he takes that personally sometimes. I do think it's him with the problem but I also wonder if it's me too and it makes things clash between us because of our problems. He isn't a typical NT because he has problems too with his brain like learning problems and how he process things due to brain damage at birth so he would be a ND instead of NT. We have had good conversations in the past only because I was curious about some stuff about him and his life and I would ask questions about it and that was it and then I ran out of what to say and had nothing else I wanted to know about him. If it's my interest, then I am able to talk well. But when it's someone else's and not mine, I don't say much and I find it difficult to know what to say. So someone may think I don't care. It's not that. Then I get accused of being arrogant? Makes me wonder if anyone else ever thinks that of me and they are too polite to tell me or don't want any conflicts so they don't tell me. He does log off right after calling me that before I even get the chance to say anything but I know I can still respond and when he logs back on, he will see my offline message but I am just speechless so I don't say anything about it. I have already explained to him many times already I just don't know what to say or talk about. But that doesn't seem to be enough for him to understand. Sometimes I get frustrated with him misunderstanding me I want to tell him I have AS to explain my lack of communication but I am not sure if it's just me with the problem. I don't want to embarrass myself by blaming it on it when it may have nothing to do with it. Even if I do, I won't be the first and last aspie who did.



If I may off a point of view. This has less to do with you being Aspie than him actually being a completely unsafe person for you or anyone else. Those who have to blame and name call have issues that they are covering up and ignoring by doing what is called "crazy making"....where they convince others to walk on eggshells around them or get blamed for everything.

There is a book called "Safe People" by Cloud and Townsend. It is helping us and our kids to identify who is safe and who is not.

My question would be: does this relationship allow you to feel safe being you - whether you tell him you are Aspie or not? And based on that ..... do you want this type of relationship?

Best wishes. Xx



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04 Jun 2013, 9:24 am

And remember..........Mr Darcy was accused such for the same reasons..... He still had good mates who got him, and he got the girl! :)



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05 Jun 2013, 3:33 am

I second, the John Townstead book, it's been really helpful.
I usally get called the B word. I'm not sure how much I should bend to make others feel comfortable. I agree I think it has to do with other peoples uncomfortableness with silience. I'm not sure why they jump to arrogant instead of shy I guess they're just projecting their own insecurities and low self-esteem.
I know why I'm at a bar I get very annoyed at people when I'm making a conversation and they won't initiate, but then again its a bar. Sometimes I feel rejected when someone won't play the social game. So maybe what happens is they feel rejected and label us with arrogance because they're butt hurt about it.



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05 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

My "friend" had an online mommy and she disappeared. So he thought I was ignoring him and I kept telling him over and over I am not and I am listening to what he writes and I have nothing to add to it or contribute. He was just pushy so it makes me think why his mommy stopped logging on. I figured she maybe blocked him. Then he had another mommy and she stopped coming online too and I figured his behavior pushes people away. He wasn't like this back in the days when we were online friends and now all of a sudden he was this person now. He had changed. But back then he always acted like he expected me to stare at his webcam and I would tell him "What do you think I do when I am on the computer? Sit here and stare at the screen and do nothing?" But he never got upset with me if I missed what he wanted to show me because he assumed I was looking at the webcam.

Sometimes friends change unfortunately and it's time to move on. He decided to move on and I moved on doing him the big favor of blocking him since he was taking so long to do it so I sped up process :wink: Even if it may have just been part of his manipulation.


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05 Jun 2013, 10:15 am

More detail about losing the "friend"

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt222903.html


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