The difference from a friend vs being used

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05 May 2013, 12:18 pm

Hi:
I had a question about the difference in being a friend to someone vs. using you.

Note: I am not talking about manipulating you for money or anything major but more subtle actions.

What will a friend do?

What will a user do who appears to act like your friend when they want or need something?



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05 May 2013, 12:48 pm

A friend is there when you need them. A user is only there when they need you.



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05 May 2013, 1:05 pm

A friend recently pointed this out with a guy that we both know. She felt like he was not really a friend but someone who whose full intention was to seek out girlfriend, get married and have a little girl. This was by trying to test the waters even though we were wrong for each other.

My friend felt the way he talked to me a lot of the time proved it too.

1. He kept asking me for sex and I turned him down
2. We held hands and snuggled
3. He and I went to a few places together one on one.
4. He kept referring to me as sweetie
5. He hinted at me a few times about having a child together because he wants a daughter so bad

He recently found someone and had gone on a first date with her and then contacted me a week later asking if I wanted to go out to dinner. I went and found out that he went on this date and said that she seemed to be ignoring him. So we spent the evening together watching movies at his place.

I contacted him a few weeks later and he blew me off with "I have a date." He has not been calling me and inviting me to do this or that lately either. I seemed to reach out three times but he has turned me down in this cold manner.



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05 May 2013, 1:17 pm

Neither friend nor user. As soon as he gets a girlfriend he will cut off contact with every woman he knows as they were never friends, only potential "girlfriends".



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05 May 2013, 2:00 pm

I never had feelings for him but wanted a brother type friend. What do you call this?



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05 May 2013, 2:09 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
I never had feelings for him but wanted a brother type friend. What do you call this?


The type of guy that whines about "getting friend-zoned" as they can't see women as friends. I know it hurts.



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05 May 2013, 2:25 pm

I am not the only person who he has not been contacting. He got invited to a graduation party that went on yesterday and put maybe down. Everyone of her friends showed up but him. Our friends kept asking about where he was.

I had to break it to them that he had been seeing someone.

In fact, he tried to call me today and I know he is pissed off because when he called, I refused to take the call and decided to let my vm pick up what he said. He never left me a message or texted. So I am assuming that he is royally angry with me because I had my other friends calling him on the carpet.



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05 May 2013, 4:04 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
A friend recently pointed this out with a guy that we both know. She felt like he was not really a friend but someone who whose full intention was to seek out girlfriend, get married and have a little girl. This was by trying to test the waters even though we were wrong for each other.

My friend felt the way he talked to me a lot of the time proved it too.

1. He kept asking me for sex and I turned him down
2. We held hands and snuggled
3. He and I went to a few places together one on one.
4. He kept referring to me as sweetie
5. He hinted at me a few times about having a child together because he wants a daughter so bad

He recently found someone and had gone on a first date with her and then contacted me a week later asking if I wanted to go out to dinner. I went and found out that he went on this date and said that she seemed to be ignoring him. So we spent the evening together watching movies at his place.

I contacted him a few weeks later and he blew me off with "I have a date." He has not been calling me and inviting me to do this or that lately either. I seemed to reach out three times but he has turned me down in this cold manner.

I think it's pretty obvious: When you went to his place, he thought he was finally getting laid, but he wasn't (I bet he had bought condoms). Now he's pissed.



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05 May 2013, 5:02 pm

He would get ready to drop me off after hanging out and would ask me if he could have sex with me without condoms. He usually brought it up when I least expected it.



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05 May 2013, 5:11 pm

Summer_Twilight wrote:
He would get ready to drop me off after hanging out and would ask me if he could have sex with me without condoms. He usually brought it up when I least expected it.

He seems scary to me.



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05 May 2013, 6:16 pm

No he is not scary but very sweet. He himself is on the Autism Spectrum and has a great sense of humor that you love.

It is just this part about wanting a girl, the sex part, and current expectations of the world that get you.



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05 May 2013, 7:14 pm

Here is a situation where I think someone gets used vs someone who is a genuine friend.

This happened last night at my work -

Four girls, three very pretty "barbie doll" types and one very tall, very very heavy. They all had evening gowns on and their hair done.

The three barbie doll types rolled their eyes a lot at the heavy girl, kept adding things (not cheap things) onto her purchase. In the end, the heavy girl paid for four shirts, four shorts and drinks and candy for everyone there. Before she could finish paying, the three girls grabbed the bags and dashed away with them leaving her there to finish the purchase.

She then followed them to the restroom where I found upon their exit they changed into the outfits she paid for - her included. Though the outfits were not really a good choice for her size frame.

When they left, this heavy girl had every single last evening gown clutched in front of her - the rest of the girls rushing ahead giggling and holding nothing - not even their own clothing!

Now that - is being used.

I find that disgusting behavior and hurtful. Especially since the girl told me her friends frequently leave her behind and "tease her" that way. At least this girl appeared oblivious.



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05 May 2013, 7:23 pm

Valkyrie2012 wrote:
Here is a situation where I think someone gets used vs someone who is a genuine friend.

This happened last night at my work -

Four girls, three very pretty "barbie doll" types and one very tall, very very heavy. They all had evening gowns on and their hair done.

The three barbie doll types rolled their eyes a lot at the heavy girl, kept adding things (not cheap things) onto her purchase. In the end, the heavy girl paid for four shirts, four shorts and drinks and candy for everyone there. Before she could finish paying, the three girls grabbed the bags and dashed away with them leaving her there to finish the purchase.

She then followed them to the restroom where I found upon their exit they changed into the outfits she paid for - her included. Though the outfits were not really a good choice for her size frame.

When they left, this heavy girl had every single last evening gown clutched in front of her - the rest of the girls rushing ahead giggling and holding nothing - not even their own clothing!

Now that - is being used.

I find that disgusting behavior and hurtful. Especially since the girl told me her friends frequently leave her behind and "tease her" that way. At least this girl appeared oblivious.


A girl who I thought was my friend once started doing that to me when met her first boyfriend. She did such things as
1. Used me to get her boyfriend pain killer meds due to a headache when we were on a camping trip once
2.Had me pay for her candy which she hated and tried to get my to buy more but I said no
3. Called me up and asked me to contact her boyfriend to get him to go on a date when she was scared.
4. She was also waiting for me to get my driver's license to drive her around

Then I had a situation where some parents of a close friend of mine used a family member and I for things.

1. They paid their share but she wrode to Disney with us two years in a row while my family member bought her some presents from Disney World.
2. The second time we had come home, my friend ended up waiting for an hour due to her parents choosing to eat out at an expensive restaurant. They knew that my family member and I had other plans.
3. Her parents knew my friend and I were close and threw a huge 30th mile stone party for my friend but did not bother to invite me. This was for a supposed reason that the party was 100 miles away from town.



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06 May 2013, 1:05 am

Summer_Twilight wrote:
Hi:
I had a question about the difference in being a friend to someone vs. using you.

Note: I am not talking about manipulating you for money or anything major but more subtle actions.

What will a friend do?

What will a user do who appears to act like your friend when they want or need something?


For me a user is always out to get anything they can from you to benefit themselves. They'll either lie or try to persuade you into doing something that you normally wouldn't do and would feel really bad about. They'll try and justify what their doing is right from their own point of view. Users tend not to say anything critical about you because they want to get you on their side to f!k you over

A friend is always there for you, good and bad. Their honest and sincere, even though sometimes you might regret hearing the truth from them. They'll go the extra step to help you out as well



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06 May 2013, 4:53 am

I see someone being used like this: someone who is 21 or over, buy his/her friends, who are under 21, some alcohol.

That almost happened to me a few times by the same person



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06 May 2013, 6:43 am

I have a rule called the phone test (or in this day and age, it could be the text or facebook text).

Do they ever contact you just to ask how you are doing or do they only call when they want a favor?