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30 Jun 2014, 9:20 pm

I took you a whole day to get back to me. Must have needed some ammo. :lol:

On the contrary. There are things that exist for us that have been brought to our attention. For the most part, it doesn't matter. People choose to believe whatever they want. However, when two people do something together, and have a discussion about it, I would hardly call it a hallucination.

Mysticism is some weird western terminology for something that reminds me of harry potter or something. Some goofball preching about talking to god, and waving around a magic wand or something. The word "supernatural" is a goofy one too. Humans do not posess any kind of special abilities to be supernatural. That would be like saying Jimi Hendrix was a supernatural guitar player? As for folklore. Let's just call it gay. Nobody walked on water. Unless it was frozen.

The whole ghost theory is just plain weird. Whatever is going on with that stuff, obviously got blown all the way out into chaos. For the most part, I don't believe in ghosts. My grandma is not floating around telling me to be good Johnny.

All this stuff you are trying to talk to me about is a bunch of "civilized" western fairy tale mambo jambo. I don't know where or how people come up with this stuff, and I do not care about all of that.

I can see why you try soo hard to disembowel these ways of thinking.



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30 Jun 2014, 10:28 pm

1. I believe in God, one in three persons. I am a practicing Catholic and (for the most part) align myself with the teachings of the Church.
2. I will apply the J.O.Y. principle to my life--Jesus first, then others, and lastly yourself. I will not do anything that unfairly puts myself before others or God. For example, trying to win a competition would be acceptable even if it means others have to lose, but eating the last cookie when you know you got it last time would not be.
3. I will always hold myself to a higher standard of behavior than I expect of others. Hypocrisy by someone else will cause me to not take them as seriously, and it's wrong in and of itself.
4. I respect human life, rights and integrity from conception to death. Everyone deserves to be treated with the same dignity and respect inherent in their humanity. No one has the right to remove anyone else's life, rights or integrity without just cause. This covers not only killing, but other things such as violations of freedom, bullying, hurting another person without just cause and so on.
5. I will always be fair. I will not lie, cheat or steal, and I will not support those who do.
6. When I say I'm going to do something, I do it. Fidelity is an important virtue.
7. I will work hard and play hard. Laziness is bad, but I will also maintain balance in my life. There is a difference.
8. Self-control is a virtue, and lust is a vice. It doesn't have to be sexual--you can have food-lust or fun-lust, too. Mastery of one's basic desires is an essential part of personal improvement.
9. The above standards are the ones I apply to my own behavior. For other people, I believe that they should be able to do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting other people.

Are these good standards to live by? :D



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01 Jul 2014, 6:16 am

yournamehere wrote:
I took you a whole day to get back to me. Must have needed some ammo. :lol:


Really, you think this? trust me when I say the only research i need to carry out discuss your posts is the occasional visit to the dictionary to check my spelling. Sadly the posters who had me groping for answers, searching through books, trawling the internet, subscribing to journals and in the process learning so much, no longer post here.


yournamehere wrote:
People choose to believe whatever they want. However, when two people do something together, and have a discussion about it, I would hardly call it a hallucination...............

All this stuff you are trying to talk to me about is a bunch of "civilized" western fairy tale mambo jambo. I don't know where or how people come up with this stuff, and I do not care about all of that.

I can see why you try soo hard to disembowel these ways of thinking.


So I read from this that your experiences of the supernatural (BTW supernatural is not a goofy word it is the correct term to describe something which is regarded as not subject to the laws of physics) are legitimate and all the rest are false/nonsensical. If I understand you correctly your level of conceit is mindblowing. If you really think that two people experiencing the same event in the same way determines its voracity you should look into the area of group hallucination/mass hysteria. Many of the belief systems which you denounce as "goofball", or by that horrid term "its gay" have not two witnesses but tens, hundreds even thousands, all claiming to experience the same thing

Group Hallucination


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01 Jul 2014, 7:21 am

I guess something as simple as awareness is supernatural. So I was wrong. Everyone is supernatural. Unless they are completely brain dead. It defies the laws of physics.

Your research is a dictionary, some books, and the internet. Unfortunately that does not pertain to your own personal abilities, knowlege, and experience.

Then you go on by saying that I am full of mindblowing conceit do to some form of group hallucination or something? I did not even mention what it is that I have on my mind, the events that have taken place, or what I may or may not know. It is likely that you may want to disprove things, just so you can be you. It would probably be a good guess to say that people made you that way, because they tried to make you believe things that arent true. It has made you closed minded. You turned things off. Denounce things, in the belief that things are not real. You stick to the solid proof. The facts. The science. The three dimensional views of the daily world. Either scenario is both like some form of twisted punishment for me. Right is wrong. People take away, and make you believe things that arent true. So they can be them. You cannot put bones in a jellyfish.

I wonder what makes you soo different from the people you oppose.



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01 Jul 2014, 8:21 am

yournamehere wrote:

I wonder what makes you soo different from the people you oppose.


Rational critical thinking, something you deride but which you enjoy the fruits of every time you use a computer, go to the Dr, drive a car etc etc.

Done with this discussion as you have shown by your last post to be a disingenuous twister of words.


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01 Jul 2014, 9:06 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
yournamehere wrote:

I wonder what makes you soo different from the people you oppose.


Rational critical thinking, something you deride but which you enjoy the fruits of every time you use a computer, go to the Dr, drive a car etc etc.

Done with this discussion as you have shown by your last post to be a disingenuous twister of words.


I love you too.

If all of what you say is true, than I deride? I'm disingenuous, lacking in critical thinking, mindblowingly conceited, a word twister, suffering from group hallucinations/mass hysteria, I confuse evidence with probability, and fact???, and am lacking in the fact of how simple it is for science to easily explain the facts of awareness. Even though it is lacking in substance, space, matter, time, physics, math, language, history.... well lets just say science. Am I leaving anything out?



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01 Jul 2014, 9:09 am

chromanebula wrote:
1. I believe in God, one in three persons. I am a practicing Catholic and (for the most part) align myself with the teachings of the Church.
2. I will apply the J.O.Y. principle to my life--Jesus first, then others, and lastly yourself. I will not do anything that unfairly puts myself before others or God. For example, trying to win a competition would be acceptable even if it means others have to lose, but eating the last cookie when you know you got it last time would not be.
3. I will always hold myself to a higher standard of behavior than I expect of others. Hypocrisy by someone else will cause me to not take them as seriously, and it's wrong in and of itself.
4. I respect human life, rights and integrity from conception to death. Everyone deserves to be treated with the same dignity and respect inherent in their humanity. No one has the right to remove anyone else's life, rights or integrity without just cause. This covers not only killing, but other things such as violations of freedom, bullying, hurting another person without just cause and so on.
5. I will always be fair. I will not lie, cheat or steal, and I will not support those who do.
6. When I say I'm going to do something, I do it. Fidelity is an important virtue.
7. I will work hard and play hard. Laziness is bad, but I will also maintain balance in my life. There is a difference.
8. Self-control is a virtue, and lust is a vice. It doesn't have to be sexual--you can have food-lust or fun-lust, too. Mastery of one's basic desires is an essential part of personal improvement.
9. The above standards are the ones I apply to my own behavior. For other people, I believe that they should be able to do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting other people.

Are these good standards to live by? :D


Probably. :D