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16 Feb 2014, 11:39 am

aghogday wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives...


Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


Dude it's just common sense..


No DUDE it is not common sense. It's not even true.

Millions upon millions of people have been murdered because of that rotten horrid book, and are still being murdered because of it. Far greater numbers then have been saved by it, if any have actually been saved by it.

Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest
By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 11, 1993; Page A01

PENSACOLA, FLA., MARCH 10 -- A doctor was shot to death outside his abortion clinic here today when a man who prayed for the physician's soul stepped forward from a group of antiabortion protesters and opened fire, according to police and witnesses.

David Gunn, 47, was shot three times in the back after he got out of his car at the Pensacola Women's Medical Services clinic, according to Pensacola police. He died during surgery at a local hospital.


Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest



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16 Feb 2014, 12:14 pm

Max000 wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives...


Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


Dude it's just common sense..


No DUDE it is not common sense. It's not even true.

Millions upon millions of people have been murdered because of that rotten horrid book, and are still being murdered because of it. Far greater numbers then have been saved by it, if any have actually been saved by it.

Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest
By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 11, 1993; Page A01

PENSACOLA, FLA., MARCH 10 -- A doctor was shot to death outside his abortion clinic here today when a man who prayed for the physician's soul stepped forward from a group of antiabortion protesters and opened fire, according to police and witnesses.

David Gunn, 47, was shot three times in the back after he got out of his car at the Pensacola Women's Medical Services clinic, according to Pensacola police. He died during surgery at a local hospital.


Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest


And said shooter wasn't punished by law?


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16 Feb 2014, 1:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."



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16 Feb 2014, 1:48 pm

Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


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16 Feb 2014, 2:28 pm

Max000 wrote:
aghogday wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives...


Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


Dude it's just common sense..


No DUDE it is not common sense. It's not even true.

Millions upon millions of people have been murdered because of that rotten horrid book, and are still being murdered because of it. Far greater numbers then have been saved by it, if any have actually been saved by it.

Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest
By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 11, 1993; Page A01

PENSACOLA, FLA., MARCH 10 -- A doctor was shot to death outside his abortion clinic here today when a man who prayed for the physician's soul stepped forward from a group of antiabortion protesters and opened fire, according to police and witnesses.

David Gunn, 47, was shot three times in the back after he got out of his car at the Pensacola Women's Medical Services clinic, according to Pensacola police. He died during surgery at a local hospital.


Doctor Killed During Abortion Protest


Well yah..no doubt..but apparently ya didn't read what i wrote...

i'm talking about the gems of wisdom and truth that are housed among all the myths..and YES..UNTRUTHS..THAT EXIST IN THAT BOOK...

BUT NAH..AS I SAY OVER AND OVER AND OVER ON THIS SITE..FOR MANY FOLKS WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY IN THINKING IN ANYTHING BUT STRUCTURED BLACK AND WHITE THINKING...

THIS IS A GRAY DEAL..NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ONE..

THERE IS POSITIVE ..NEGATIVE..DARK AND LIGHT..ACTION..CONSEQUENCE..HUMAN TASTED AND FLAVORED ENERGY..IN ALMOST ANY HUMAN EFFORT...

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS COST/BENEFIT..IF YA WANNA GET BACK IN THAT STRUCTURED WAY OF THINKING...

That can be approximated as such..as gray..if one spends enough time and conscienTIOUS effort..

PURSUING THE WHOLE STORY..NOT JUST...
the known facts...

That's common sense..AKA cognitive empathy..AKA social cognition..

A huge VALUED human attribute..and necessary component of life..a little harder for many autistic folks..
to get at...
But after 5 decades of some serious research on that..
i
have
arrived not only at the top of the class in high school with three academic college degrees ..two in liberal arts and one in science...

But a friggin brain for social cognition/cognitive empathy..
otherwise known as human common sense....

to really
get
the whole
dam
story.....
in a FULLY INTELLIGENT WAY.....

NAH ONE DOESN'T FULLY RATIONALLY/EMOTIONALLY THROW THE DAM BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER..JUST CAUSE THERE IS SOME DIRTY WATER IN THERE...

WITH THE VALUABLE BABY...

GEMS AND ALL..AND GOLD TRUTHS OF WISDOM...

IF YA GET THE METAPHOR....

HUMAN TRUTH/WISDOM
IS
PRICELESS...

AND YES..A FEW MILLION FOLKS IS NOTHING IN COMPARISON..
TO THE BILLIONS OF LIVES SAVED THROUGHOUT TIME..AS
AN INDIRECT AND DIRECT RESULT OF THE COLLECTION OF HUMAN
WISDOM/TRUTH..OF FULL COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE...
NO MATTER WHAT THE FRIGGIN SOURCE..IS..

WHICH IS MOST ALWAYS..AT LEAST..
A LITTLE IMPERFECT...
GRANTED.. HUMANS REALLY AREN'T COMPUTERS....:)
ARE THEY..?
IF YA ANSWER YES..
WELL..
THAT'S AT LEAST PART OF THE PROBLEM.. AS I USUALLY STATE HERE..
AGAIN...AND
AGAIN.


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16 Feb 2014, 3:05 pm

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The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


There is some xenophobia here and there. But, here is my favorite anti-racist bit:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=GNT



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16 Feb 2014, 3:18 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


You're correct that the Bible in no way supports white supremacy or Neo-Nazi views.

Ironically, however, it is very explicit about the supremacy of the Israelites. Particularly in the Old Testament.



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16 Feb 2014, 4:05 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives...


Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians? And with the most recent mass murder of Jews by Europeans in the Holocaust, while Hitler and the Nazis had been raised in Christian homes, most of them had lost their religiosity by adulthood. And during the Second World War, it's a fact that church attendance in Germany was at it's very lowest, with most Germans falling for astrology and mysticism.


The writers in the new testament managed to blame the jews for the death of christ. Mark and Mathew are especially anti semitic. This blaming jews for Jesus's death has led to pograms, massacres and abuse at the hands of christians for centuries. I have not got the time right now to dig out the references but many of the anti-semitic passages have forged authorship.


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16 Feb 2014, 5:01 pm

appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


Read the article. He was killed by the Christian Identity movement. Christians like it or not. You people are unbelievable. You just blow off all the bad things people do in the name of your crappy religion.

And the bible is filled with racism, and every other sick perversion known to man.

Exodus 12:29-30
New International Version (NIV)
29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.

Exodus 34:4-11
New International Version
Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.


Samuel 15:2-3
New International Version (NIV)
2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Numbers 31:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Genesis 19:24-25
New International Version (NIV)
24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.

Samuel 27:8-12
New International Version (NIV)
8 Now David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites and the Amalekites. (From ancient times these peoples had lived in the land extending to Shur and Egypt.) 9 Whenever David attacked an area, he did not leave a man or woman alive, but took sheep and cattle, donkeys and camels, and clothes. Then he returned to Achish.

Kings 10:19-27
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As soon as Jehu had finished making the burnt offering, he ordered the guards and officers: “Go in and kill them; let no one escape.” So they cut them down with the sword. The guards and officers threw the bodies out and then entered the inner shrine of the temple of Baal. 26 They brought the sacred stone out of the temple of Baal and burned it. 27 They demolished the sacred stone of Baal and tore down the temple of Baal, and people have used it for a latrine to this day.

Nehemiah 13:23-30
English Standard Version (ESV)
23 In those days also I saw the Jews who had married women of Ashdod, Ammon, and Moab. 24 And half of their children spoke the language of Ashdod, and they could not speak the language of Judah, but only the language of each people. 25 And I confronted them and cursed them and beat some of them and pulled out their hair. And I made them take an oath in the name of God, saying, “You shall not give your daughters to their sons, or take their daughters for your sons or for yourselves. 26 Did not Solomon king of Israel sin on account of such women? Among the many nations there was no king like him, and he was beloved by his God, and God made him king over all Israel. Nevertheless, foreign women made even him to sin. 27 Shall we then listen to you and do all this great evil and act treacherously against our God by marrying foreign women?”

Deuteronomy 23:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord, not even in the tenth generation

Nehemiah 13-
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Foreigners Excluded

13 On that day they read aloud from the book of Moses in the hearing of the people; and there was found written in it that no Ammonite or Moabite should ever enter the assembly of God, 2 because they did not meet the sons of Israel with bread and water, but hired Balaam against them to curse them. However, our God turned the curse into a blessing. 3 So when they heard the law, they excluded all foreigners from Israel.


I could go on, but this is making me sick to my stomach , just reading this garbage. :eew:



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16 Feb 2014, 5:19 pm

TheGoggles wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


You're correct that the Bible in no way supports white supremacy or Neo-Nazi views.


You are in total denial. :roll:

White Supremacist Doctrine Assailed : Religious Leaders Warn on Groups Using Bible to Justify Racism
December 20, 1986|United Press International

NEW YORK — Protestant, Jewish and Roman Catholic leaders are warning their followers of a white supremacist doctrine that gives theological support to racism and anti-Semitism.


White Supremacist Doctrine Assailed : Religious Leaders Warn on Groups Using Bible to Justify Racism



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16 Feb 2014, 5:20 pm

TheGoggles wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


You're correct that the Bible in no way supports white supremacy or Neo-Nazi views.


You are in total denial. :roll:

White Supremacist Doctrine Assailed : Religious Leaders Warn on Groups Using Bible to Justify Racism
December 20, 1986|United Press International

NEW YORK — Protestant, Jewish and Roman Catholic leaders are warning their followers of a white supremacist doctrine that gives theological support to racism and anti-Semitism.


White Supremacist Doctrine Assailed : Religious Leaders Warn on Groups Using Bible to Justify Racism



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16 Feb 2014, 5:44 pm

Max000 wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


Read the article. He was killed by the Christian Identity movement. Christians like it or not. You people are unbelievable. You just blow off all the bad things people do in the name of your crappy religion.

And the bible is filled with racism, and every other sick perversion known to man.

Exodus 12:29-30
New International Version (NIV)
29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.

Exodus 34:4-11
New International Version
Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.


Samuel 15:2-3
New International Version (NIV)
2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Numbers 31:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Genesis 19:24-25
New International Version (NIV)
24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.

Samuel 27:8-12
New International Version (NIV)
8 Now David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites and the Amalekites. (From ancient times these peoples had lived in the land extending to Shur and Egypt.) 9 Whenever David attacked an area, he did not leave a man or woman alive, but took sheep and cattle, donkeys and camels, and clothes. Then he returned to Achish.

Kings 10:19-27
New International Version (NIV)
As soon as Jehu had finished making the burnt offering, he ordered the guards and officers: “Go in and kill them; let no one escape.” So they cut them down with the sword. The guards and officers threw the bodies out and then entered the inner shrine of the temple of Baal. 26 They brought the sacred stone out of the temple of Baal and burned it. 27 They demolished the sacred stone of Baal and tore down the temple of Baal, and people have used it for a latrine to this day.

Nehemiah 13:23-30
English Standard Version (ESV)
23 In those days also I saw the Jews who had married women of Ashdod, Ammon, and Moab. 24 And half of their children spoke the language of Ashdod, and they could not speak the language of Judah, but only the language of each people. 25 And I confronted them and cursed them and beat some of them and pulled out their hair. And I made them take an oath in the name of God, saying, “You shall not give your daughters to their sons, or take their daughters for your sons or for yourselves. 26 Did not Solomon king of Israel sin on account of such women? Among the many nations there was no king like him, and he was beloved by his God, and God made him king over all Israel. Nevertheless, foreign women made even him to sin. 27 Shall we then listen to you and do all this great evil and act treacherously against our God by marrying foreign women?”

Deuteronomy 23:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord, not even in the tenth generation

Nehemiah 13-
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Foreigners Excluded

13 On that day they read aloud from the book of Moses in the hearing of the people; and there was found written in it that no Ammonite or Moabite should ever enter the assembly of God, 2 because they did not meet the sons of Israel with bread and water, but hired Balaam against them to curse them. However, our God turned the curse into a blessing. 3 So when they heard the law, they excluded all foreigners from Israel.


I could go on, but this is making me sick to my stomach , just reading this garbage. :eew:


All those things had happened before those events happened. There had been fighting of all kinds.
Plus, who cares? I'm not responsible for what other people choose to do do 5000 years before I was born.


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16 Feb 2014, 5:48 pm

Plus, those were pre-israel Jews. Ancient Jews. Compared to Egypt, they were pretty tame. They didn't sacrifice children like the pagans did.

Plus, those were not Christians. The book is a book of history. If everything was a lesson, I couldn't know what it would be like.


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16 Feb 2014, 6:06 pm

I think the point is to note how xenophobic and racially supremacist the bible can be. According to John that is Jesus too.

The early Christians could see the problem. There were gnostic Christians who thought the OT biblical god was evil and that you had to get around him to get out of here. Marcion spread an early variant of Christianity where there were two gods and the god of the OT was the bad one. Though he was a bit racist himself. But it was obvious to people even then that the OT is kind of rough.



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appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
Max000 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
And regardless of who wrote those gospels in the New Testament..those jewels that do continue in the written words there...
have saved so many lives.../quote]

Really, you spoken to any Jews recently. :roll:


But really, when have Jews been killed by American Christians?



I could make an endless list, but here is just one example. Your book sucks. It inspires violence. You may ignore the bad parts of it, but not everyone does.

The murder of Alan Berg in Denver: 25 years later
"In a sense, it was one of the opening shots of a truly revolutionary radical right."


That is about white supremacists. Not republicans. Keep yelling racist at every religious person, it will get you nowhere.
The bible has nothing to do with racism. Nowhere in the entire bible is racism even a part of anything.


Read the article. He was killed by the Christian Identity movement. Christians like it or not. You people are unbelievable. You just blow off all the bad things people do in the name of your crappy religion.

And the bible is filled with racism, and every other sick perversion known to man.

Exodus 12:29-30
New International Version (NIV)
29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. 30 Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.

Exodus 34:4-11
New International Version
Obey what I command you today. I will drive out before you the Amorites, Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites.


Samuel 15:2-3
New International Version (NIV)
2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

Numbers 31:17-18
King James Version (KJV)
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Genesis 19:24-25
New International Version (NIV)
24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.

Samuel 27:8-12
New International Version (NIV)
8 Now David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites and the Amalekites. (From ancient times these peoples had lived in the land extending to Shur and Egypt.) 9 Whenever David attacked an area, he did not leave a man or woman alive, but took sheep and cattle, donkeys and camels, and clothes. Then he returned to Achish.

Kings 10:19-27
New International Version (NIV)
As soon as Jehu had finished making the burnt offering, he ordered the guards and officers: “Go in and kill them; let no one escape.” So they cut them down with the sword. The guards and officers threw the bodies out and then entered the inner shrine of the temple of Baal. 26 They brought the sacred stone out of the temple of Baal and burned it. 27 They demolished the sacred stone of Baal and tore down the temple of Baal, and people have used it for a latrine to this day.

Nehemiah 13:23-30
English Standard Version (ESV)
23 In those days also I saw the Jews who had married women of Ashdod, Ammon, and Moab. 24 And half of their children spoke the language of Ashdod, and they could not speak the language of Judah, but only the language of each people. 25 And I confronted them and cursed them and beat some of them and pulled out their hair. And I made them take an oath in the name of God, saying, “You shall not give your daughters to their sons, or take their daughters for your sons or for yourselves. 26 Did not Solomon king of Israel sin on account of such women? Among the many nations there was no king like him, and he was beloved by his God, and God made him king over all Israel. Nevertheless, foreign women made even him to sin. 27 Shall we then listen to you and do all this great evil and act treacherously against our God by marrying foreign women?”

Deuteronomy 23:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord, not even in the tenth generation

Nehemiah 13-
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Foreigners Excluded

13 On that day they read aloud from the book of Moses in the hearing of the people; and there was found written in it that no Ammonite or Moabite should ever enter the assembly of God, 2 because they did not meet the sons of Israel with bread and water, but hired Balaam against them to curse them. However, our God turned the curse into a blessing. 3 So when they heard the law, they excluded all foreigners from Israel.


I could go on, but this is making me sick to my stomach , just reading this garbage. :eew:


All those things had happened before those events happened. There had been fighting of all kinds.
Plus, who cares? I'm not responsible for what other people choose to do do 5000 years before I was born.


Everything in the bible happened thousands of years before you were born. So why do you care about the bible at all? First you say there is no racism in the bible. I prove there is. Then you say you don't care.

You people are intellectually hopeless. :(



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16 Feb 2014, 6:15 pm

Max000 wrote:

Everything in the bible happened thousands of years before you were born. So why do you care about the bible at all? First you say there is no racism in the bible. I prove there is. Then you say you don't care.

You people are intellectually hopeless. :(


I may not imitate the wars in the old testament by killing Iranians like you want me to, but I don't have to put up with being called stupid.
Post something other than your usual doomsaying, and lighten up.


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