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07 May 2010, 6:00 pm

[quote]Like Toucan said, I think the problem is that if I listen to something, even just once, I cannot get it out of my head. If I listen several times especially with headphones, the whole thing replays even more authentically.[quote]

hi neil, I'm like this (constant mental juke box, head full of tunes) I presumed everyone is like this, is this not the case? Is this an AS thing?

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07 May 2010, 6:33 pm

I do this and it goes from one to another that may be similar. Sometimes I have to actively seek out songs to replace them when the current song sucks. I try to get music in other languages because then at least it's only sounds and not associated with images (if I haven't got it translated). I hear music in my sleep all the time too and when i am asleep I can sing along with all the songs perfectly, no matter if they are in Russian or Portuguese or French or whatever, I am singing along in a perfect accent at the top of my lungs. When I wake up and realize it I try to keep doing it but the ability just drifts away like a light dimming before it turns off, and I get really disappointed.



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07 May 2010, 10:33 pm

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Oliver Sacks, in his book "Musicophilia," discusses this phenomenon. It seems to be uncommon, but he doesn't reference any relationship to schizophrenia. Just more variety in human neural functioning!


I read like the first 50 or so pages of that book in the library the other day, and I can't wait to go back and finish it xD (don't ask why I didn't just check it out). Great book, fascinating stuff, I enjoy his stories.

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My partner asked me once why, although I am musical, don't I listen to music much? Since he pointed that out I have started to listen to more. But to be honest there is enough music in my head to keep me going, I don't have to actually
listen to it, but I really should so that I can add to my mental jukebox (yes it is quite mental).


This is exactly why I almost never actually have music playing, and Its funny, because its never actually dawned on me that this is the reason :lol:


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08 May 2010, 1:42 am

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I can't recall the last time my head didn't have a tune going around in it. It's nonstop.


same. usually it's something i heard recently, but there is always something playing. i don't know how to think without it. i don't think i could turn it off if i tried. (now playing: Pat Benatar - "Hell is for children" .. beginning guitar riff / first verse)

i "write" songs in my sleep, occasionally. i wake up with them.

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This isn't a form of schizophrenia, is it? Does this happen to anyone else?


haha .. wow. i hope not.


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08 May 2010, 1:48 am

... and in any case, i've just now realized how sick i am of Pat Benatar. 8O

So i've changed the tune.


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08 May 2010, 4:19 am

same. usually it's something i heard recently, but there is always something playing. i don't know how to think without it. i don't think i could turn it off if i tried. (now playing: Pat Benatar - "Hell is for children" .. beginning guitar riff / first verse)[quote]

wow, I honestly thought this was the norm. I always have tunes in my head. Often 2 or 3 tunes batteling with each other. I can hear every chord, every note, every lyric of each tune perfectly. I just presumed this was how everyone is. Saying that, at one point it got so bad I actually went to see a dictor about it as it was causing me to have insomnia. He just said "everyone has tunes in their head sometimes (yeah, sometimes). I then became scared of listening to my iPod in fear of feeding my mental playlist. This was worse however as I'd pick up rubbish music from shops, malls etc. So, iPod back on. If I have to have tunes in my head - all the better if they are of my choosing.



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08 May 2010, 7:10 am

I haven't checked the whole thread but google "musical hallucinations". It happens to many people. Though personally I never experienced anything like that, never had any kind of hallucinations, either auditory like in this case or visual, I heard about similar cases.



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12 May 2010, 3:52 pm

Hi music lovers
I don't know whether it is exclusively or mainly an AS thing, but I think there's a difference between humming a tune you have recently heard, and having tunes constantly playing. I suppose in my case it's not actually all the time but most of the time. Maybe it's a kind of regulating device to keep me calm. I once told a friend at school that I was kept awake in bed at night drumming out tunes on my pillow (I play the piano) and I am not sure she understood ! ! When I put music on to listen to, like to try new stuff (not just classical) but I choose it quite carefully as I don't want to be "flooded" in case it comes back to haunt me for too long. Anything with a strong rythm really sticks - the ones that spring to mind (from my cloistered and middle-aged-person's experience) are King Crimson, Siouxsee, Prokoviev, Stravinsky, some of Oscar Peterson, Liszt, Beethoven (actually I am just listing my favourite music here, ha ha).

Musicophilia is a fascinating read

I am interested in anything to do with music and how it's perceived and even gone to the extent of writing poems about it. Some people see it in colours, others see or feel it as a kind of presence etc (I am in the latter group, I am not visual enough to see the colour thing). Anyone experienced this?
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12 May 2010, 6:32 pm

MuteEleganceofStars wrote:
I am interested in anything to do with music and how it's perceived and even gone to the extent of writing poems about it. Some people see it in colours,


that's a type of synesthesia.

i am trying to figure out if i have sound > touch and vision > touch synesthesia, but these are rare types and i can't find much written about them. what happens is if i listen to certain types of music or focus on certain types of movement, i get a physical sensation from it. mostly in my head, almost like a drug high or the opposite of a headache. like a little brain massage. but it might just be a sort of music-induced and visually induced hypnosis.

it happens with some classical, and a lot of electronic / ambient stuff esp. Aphex Twin - and it's interesting to note that Richard D. James has synesthesia himself. the types of visuals that induce it are psychedelic animations, fractals, someone drawing or swirling a hand in the air, and that sort of thing.


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12 May 2010, 7:10 pm

Yesterday I had megatest of very difficult subject. I woke up and This Little Something in my head played a song of Tic Tac Toe:
deine B-I-R-N-E ist total H-O-H-L, absolut L-E-E-R
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your N-O-D-D-L-E is totally E-M-P-T-Y, absolute V-O-I-D

It was really terrible feeling :lol:


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12 May 2010, 7:30 pm

*Listens to Pokemon theme in the back of my head*
I once had no song in my head for almost 10 minutes straight. I was a bit scared.


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17 May 2010, 11:29 am

Hello fellow sensitive souls

That’s really interesting what Katzefrau says, I wonder if it is similar to what I experience. One thing I have noticed in the last few years that’s a really strange visual sensation is this:

Often when really tired – felling quite weak and a bit wobbly as if the slightest thing would knock me over. Looking out of a hotel / office window onto traffic and the bustle of people below. I can sense the movement of each individual car and it’s like I can feel them moving in my head. Similiarly if I am in one of my tired states and am out in a busy street, my vision goes really strange like lines and perspective all bend and squash like I am inside some strange computer game. If there are loads of people going to and fro I feel like I am dragged in a humdred directions by each person.

Something else too - not sure how odd this makes me but here goes. For many years I have been fascinated by trees and how they move and dance in the wind ! Puts me in a kind of trance as the sensation is so lovely, especially at this time of year. A bit like taking drugs (I imagine) and it's free !

Has anyone else experienced anything like this ?
Also does anyone else feel or hear music as some kind of shape or movement ? If so I would love to hear from you.

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17 May 2010, 12:29 pm

MuteEleganceofStars wrote:
Often when really tired – felling quite weak and a bit wobbly as if the slightest thing would knock me over. Looking out of a hotel / office window onto traffic and the bustle of people below. I can sense the movement of each individual car and it’s like I can feel them moving in my head. Similiarly if I am in one of my tired states and am out in a busy street, my vision goes really strange like lines and perspective all bend and squash like I am inside some strange computer game. If there are loads of people going to and fro I feel like I am dragged in a humdred directions by each person.

I think this is fairly common amongst people here. I don't know the term for it but I call it "temporary sensory disintegration," where the senses stop working together and all kind of work separately. This used to happen to me more than it does now. I have to be pretty darned tired for it to happen, but I think I know what you are talking about.

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Something else too - not sure how odd this makes me but here goes. For many years I have been fascinated by trees and how they move and dance in the wind ! Puts me in a kind of trance as the sensation is so lovely, especially at this time of year. A bit like taking drugs (I imagine) and it's free !

Patterns of nature are something that many enjoy. I personally love watching the wind ripple through tall grass, or watching the frost slowly melt behind a moving shadow. Trees are fun to watch, too.

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Also does anyone else feel or hear music as some kind of shape or movement ? If so I would love to hear from you.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I hear musical shapes, if you will, and assemble patterns of them together in my head almost effortlessly... but I don't literally hear shapes.


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17 May 2010, 1:19 pm

I hear music, instead of voices. I used to hear voices, and that wasn't very pleasant, as they were abusive voices, from my past. I'd rather hear my favourite music, playing in my head. :)


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17 May 2010, 1:24 pm

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I can't recall the last time my head didn't have a tune going around in it. It's nonstop. Though I can concentrate on other things, it's still there going on in the back of my head. It's more than just an "earworm"; it's different music from day to day (and often hour to hour). My musical brain works very strongly by association, so if something sounds like something else, it's possible it will be the next thing stuck in my head.

This isn't a form of schizophrenia, is it? Does this happen to anyone else?


I dont think its schizophrenia. Are the songs other artists songs or are they just songs that you hear, that come from nowhere? If so I have that. I also have synesthesia, I can smell/taste sounds.