Florida Christians protest atheist billboard

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You aren't therefore you think not. Contrapositive of Descartes' most lingering sentence.

I truly admire your tremendous capacity for imperceptivity. To doubt is to be truly alert and alive and bequests a very sharp sense of existence as you never know when and where things are going to pop. Its people who lull themselves into dull acceptance of commonplace untested beliefs who numb themselves out of existence.

I read TNCH (Hebrew Scriptures) in the Hebrew and Aramaic. I have also studied the Oral Tradition (Talmud) when I was younger. What does psychology have to do with anything? Anyone who claims The Lord spoke to him clearly is either a liar or a wing nut. The non-Terrestrials who spoke to Abraham and Moses are long gone.

ruveyn

What makes you sure they're gone?

The aluminum foil isn't effective at keeping them from sending him messages.

If the Visitors (assuming they ever existed) were still around, we now have the means for detecting them. Since we do not detect them, assuming they are not playing hide and seek with us, then we can presume if they ever were here they no longer are. I believe the Visitors have made their dent on our species and we are essentially on our own and we have been for at least 2000 years, perhaps a little longer.

We are no longer in the cradle. We are in grade school now and we can make our own way.

Let me give you a cautionary story. You are no doubt familiar with the Antikythera Device, a corroded bronze artifact found of the island of Antikythera in the Aegean. Later examination showed it to be a gear based calculator at least as sophisticated as that produced by Blaise Pascal in the seventeenth century, c.e.. Now just suppose some day we haul up the remains of a matter-energy converter embedded in some ocean rock and dated to say, ten thousand years ago. We have not found such an artifact but we should be prepared intellectually to deal with such a find, if we ever find it. There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamed of in your philosphy.

Or think of this. Suppose civilization collapses about our ears and it takes ten thousand years to get back to where we are now. Ten thousand years from now men will go to the Moon and what will they find? The trash and discard of the Apollo Expedition and The Footprint, all of which was forgotten in the hypothetical ten millenia. What well those people say or think? Be prepared, I say.

ruveyn

You completely missed the point. The billboard merely advocates acceptance of non-religious people - in what way is that offensive to the religious? It doesn't say that the non-religious are superior, it merely says that they (/we) are not inferior.

I have no problem with religious people, until they start pushing their agenda and beliefs on everyone else, which is exactly what these people are doing.

The same exact kind of bias that you show when you assume your opinions are correct.

If it really is so objectionable to assume that you are correct, then please explain to me how anyone can reasonably hold any opinion whatsoever.

Hang on a minute here...this has gone from "assuming someone is correct because they are a Christian" to "assuming you yourself are correct". Those are two completely different things.

Er, what the hell are you talking about now?

You said that you would agree with X over Y in a situation Z, where 'Z' is a situation where you don't know any specifics. That's the very definition of biased.

Is there something wrong with your reading comprehension?

You should be careful about it, but I can't see any reason to think it can never be good.


Not true.

Christians believe, for example:
There is a God.
God created the universe.
God is loving.
People were made 'in God's likeness'.
People, therefore, should also be loving.
It is possible to pray to God, and people should do so.
There is such a thing as right-and-wrong in an objective sense.
God is the source of morality. (although there is disagreement on exactly how this works)
The bible was inspired by God. (again disagreements on the specifics, but not the general idea)

I'll stop there, because I could go on all day like this.

So do most Christians believe that they are superior to everyone else and that anyone who states otherwise should be censored? I don't think so.

I am not advocating agreeing with someone because of a label that they wear. I'm saying that it is reasonable, if you know that someone thinks very much like you do, to assume that you would agree with them over someone who thinks quite differently from either of you.

Assuming that someone who agrees with you is correct is not much different from assuming that you yourself are correct.

Same thing I've been talking about the entire time.


Not quite. I said that it would be reasonable to assume that I would agree with X over Y, if X tends to agree with me and Y doesn't, without further information. Obviously, the presence of further information could change things.

That isn't the definition of bias, it's the definition of being on whatever side that you happen to be on.

No.

I'm not sure how you got this out of what I said.

To assume makes an ass out of u-m-e