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05 Oct 2009, 5:56 am

Are there more Atheists here among the AS people?



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05 Oct 2009, 5:59 am

By God, that's a good question.



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05 Oct 2009, 6:01 am

DaWalker wrote:
By God, that's a good question.

LOL


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05 Oct 2009, 6:48 am

I'm Olistic and belive in "Deus sive naturae". I don't belive in a personal God. But I see a biggest pattern in Nature that make all the Universe connected. I belive I'm the way nature discover herself. If that's God or not is up to you. People consider me atheist.


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05 Oct 2009, 7:28 am

I'm an atheist by definition as I don't believe in any sort of religion or cults or anything like that. Whether there are some paranormal beings out there or not who knows but I certainly don't believe in man-made religions and stuff like that.



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05 Oct 2009, 7:30 am

Why not make it a poll so you can get some numbers of religious vs non-religious people. You can even break it down by types of religion...

I don't consider myself an Athiest because I do believe in reincarnation, but not in God.



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05 Oct 2009, 8:22 am

MrVulcan wrote:
Why not make it a poll so you can get some numbers of religious vs non-religious people. You can even break it down by types of religion...

I don't consider myself an Athiest because I do believe in reincarnation, but not in God.


You can be an atheist and still believe in reincarnation.



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05 Oct 2009, 8:27 am

I agree with all of you.

I am certainly agnostic.

On the question of whether there is a god, I am ambivalent.

I don't seek to disprove anything. I just don't subscribe to anyone's definition of things unknowable.



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05 Oct 2009, 8:36 am

It is the dice, in fact, that play God with the universe.



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05 Oct 2009, 8:45 am

Izaak wrote:
It is the dice, in fact, that play God with the universe.


No it's me. :twisted:
And if you contradict me, I'll erase your IP.


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05 Oct 2009, 9:30 am

jimb424 wrote:
Are there more Atheists here among the AS people?

I was surprised to discover there were any religious people here at all, considering the Aspie tendency towards independence of thought and logic, and the NT tendency to follow crowds and leaders. These days I'd guess that a survey would possibly show some trend in that direction, but not a particularly strong one. I suppose the key is in understanding why anybody becomes religious in the first place, but that's beyond me. I have no idea why anybody ever believes anything....from my viewpoint, if I don't know the answer to a question (such as "is there a god?"), then I don't know, and attempting to apply "faith" (whatever that is) is quite alien to me.....I could act as though a thing were true even though I didn't know whether it was or not, which according to one New Testament story is faith, but in my mind I would still have to admit that I didn't know. Is there a difference between actually thinking that there is a god, and just forcing the assumption on oneself without it being the result of diligent thought?

I don't even know if I qualify as an atheist or merely an agnostic.....many times I'm tempted to just say "it's obvious that there are no gods," and I nearly always act on the assumption that there isn't, but in a more mellow mood I'd have to admit that there's no way to utterly disprove the existence of anything. If I had to guess, I'd say there isn't, and I'd feel fairly confident in the correctness of that guess. I wouldn't want to rule out the possibility of there being a deity, but frankly I've yet to see a shred of hard evidence that there is, so for all practical purposes there isn't, as far as I'm concerned.



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05 Oct 2009, 9:37 am

I'm an agnostic atheist.



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05 Oct 2009, 10:13 am

drowbot0181 wrote:
I'm an agnostic atheist.



Does that mean you don't read Richard Dawkins?



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05 Oct 2009, 10:33 am

jimb424 wrote:
drowbot0181 wrote:
I'm an agnostic atheist.



Does that mean you don't read Richard Dawkins?


I see what you did there! :lol:



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05 Oct 2009, 10:33 am

jimb424 wrote:
drowbot0181 wrote:
I'm an agnostic atheist.



Does that mean you don't read Richard Dawkins?


No, I quite enjoy his work. But I disagree with his and most people's use of the terms agnostic and atheist. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Gnosticism is about what you know or claim to know and theism is about what you believe. These are two separate things.

People who claim to be agnostic are really agnostic atheists. There is just so much stigma attached to the term atheist that people shy away from it.

Here is a good article that explains the definitions better than I can: http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php? ... ic_atheist

No offense to anybody here, but I actually get a bit annoyed with people that say "I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic" with that air of superiority. It's really just foolish.



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05 Oct 2009, 10:35 am

this is all fascinating sociological stuff here.

I'm not atheist.

Check out Non-dualistic Vedanta, which falls under the umbrella of Hinduism. That's me :wink:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta


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