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24 Nov 2009, 1:04 pm

Hey Max,

Despite what many people in the USA will tell you, there is no requirement to have faith in some religion or supernatural entity (which I think is what you mean by "belief"). I don't think that only believing what seems logical or can be proven is a disability - lots of smart people over the years have said that it's the best approach. This can be taken to extremes, of course, but I think accepting things conditionally if they seem reasonable is a good strategy. (And I'm sure you know that just because something can't be proved false, that doesn't mean it's true.)

Personally, I have not found a convincing explanation of why there is something instead of nothing. I'm not sure there is one. But the theory of evolution provides a thorough and logical explanation of how we (people) came to exist here on Earth. Something for you to check out, if you haven't already. I know this is not the forum to discuss religion in depth, so I'll leave it at that.


I've got another quirk I don't see listed among Aspy traits though, I am utterly incapable of belief. I can't do it, I tried when I was studying religions, did the best I could to believe they were true, but my brain yelled at me the whole time. I finally stopped, but yeah... anyone else reported that? If I can't prove something with observation, or math, I don't trust it. If I can't show it is false, I can treat it as conditionally true, but that is all.


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24 Nov 2009, 1:27 pm

Oh, I don't just mean faith, though that baffles me the most.

I mean belief at all.

I can't hold an idea to be true if I can't prove it is true.

I can hold it as usefully true if I can't prove it is false, but that is not the same as knowing 2 + 2 is 4 in Peano arithmetic.


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24 Nov 2009, 2:04 pm

justMax wrote:
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Nice to hear you're also interested in science, and also a nonbeliever ;)
Beyond interested, lol.
:D OK, aspie-interested then ;)

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24 Nov 2009, 2:41 pm

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Wait.. Stop.. Hold the press for a moment.

This not having baths thing... is this a Aspergers thing?? I thought that was just me being me... Also.. does anyone else have problems sleeping?? Don't get me wrong, I can sleep as an olympic sport.. But a little like putting off baths or showers, I also put of going to bed, like its a waste of time, is this usual?.

Also.. I found it interesting what you said about proving things... I can test the living daylights out of something but within 1 second of completing the test without any logical doubt, I distrust my findings.

Yes apparently i think it is a aspergers thing... I can't stand baths and showers but I have to keep fresh in the mornings before i head off to college.

I do have a funny sleeping pattern. When i don't have college i can sleep for quite a very long time, but when it gets to college days, its the complete oppisite and i'm not aspergers, i have high functioning autism :P its relatively the same :)

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25 Nov 2009, 7:36 am

hi justMax, i am new here as well. welcome to WP :)