Do girls tend to have fewer special interests than boys?

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17 Dec 2009, 3:38 am

I'm female with diagnosed AS, and my boyfriend is also diagnosed AS. He has an encyclopedic memory--definitely a "little professor"--and quite a few, intense, special interests. I tend to develop special interests pretty infrequently, and they don't last for very long. Even when I do have them, I have difficulty retaining facts. My boyfriend can--and will, if you don't stop him--spit facts at you for hours; it's like he never forgets anything he reads.

Do girls, on average, tend to have fewer special interests than boys? Or, if not, do they tend to have a poorer memory for facts and trivia than boys do? I'm worried that because I have a poor memory for facts and few special interests, I might have been diagnosed wrong and don't actually have AS...



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17 Dec 2009, 4:29 am

Here's a list of my special interests, and I have very good knoledge of them. I find that the list is shorter than most of the ones here, but I remember a lot of facts about them.

Swinging London
Carnaby Street
The Kinks
The British Invasion
Routemaster buses
Cockneys

I have encyclopeadic knowledge of these things, but most of the lists that I see here, are five times as long as mine, and it's all things that are advanced and sophisticated, like sciences, maths, languages, history and psychology.

Here I am, comparing myself to everybody else, again. I've got to stop that. :lol:

My username isn't CockneyRebel for nothing. 8)


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17 Dec 2009, 4:32 am

I haven't noticed any quantity differences between men and women.


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17 Dec 2009, 5:17 am

adamsfrood42 wrote:
I'm female with diagnosed AS, and my boyfriend is also diagnosed AS. He has an encyclopedic memory--definitely a "little professor"--and quite a few, intense, special interests. I tend to develop special interests pretty infrequently, and they don't last for very long. Even when I do have them, I have difficulty retaining facts. My boyfriend can--and will, if you don't stop him--spit facts at you for hours; it's like he never forgets anything he reads.

Do girls, on average, tend to have fewer special interests than boys? Or, if not, do they tend to have a poorer memory for facts and trivia than boys do? I'm worried that because I have a poor memory for facts and few special interests, I might have been diagnosed wrong and don't actually have AS...


That describes me, but I am not diagnosed. I am diagnosed with Inattentive ADD though. I find it easy to rattle off information about Autism though but I wouldn't be able to remember statistics or particular information about brain activity. There is a thread here about specific female AS traits.


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17 Dec 2009, 8:17 am

Aimless wrote:
adamsfrood42 wrote:
I'm female with diagnosed AS, and my boyfriend is also diagnosed AS. He has an encyclopedic memory--definitely a "little professor"--and quite a few, intense, special interests. I tend to develop special interests pretty infrequently, and they don't last for very long. Even when I do have them, I have difficulty retaining facts. My boyfriend can--and will, if you don't stop him--spit facts at you for hours; it's like he never forgets anything he reads.

Do girls, on average, tend to have fewer special interests than boys? Or, if not, do they tend to have a poorer memory for facts and trivia than boys do? I'm worried that because I have a poor memory for facts and few special interests, I might have been diagnosed wrong and don't actually have AS...


That describes me, but I am not diagnosed. I am diagnosed with Inattentive ADD though. I find it easy to rattle off information about Autism though but I wouldn't be able to remember statistics or particular information about brain activity. There is a thread here about specific female AS traits.


I'm also the same as this. My special interests tend towards more active things than memorising facts (yoyoing, origami), or my ASness/Dyspraxia/etc.



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17 Dec 2009, 8:48 am

I think that girls does indeed have less "special interest". I think is due to the substantial difference between male and female brain. Many articles I've read are about gifted girls but I think many things apply also to AS-Girls. Usually women brains are more "scattered" and "holistic" than male brains and tend both for neurological and social reason to have higher degree in emotions and verbal things while male brains have a greatest ability to spatial/logical reasoning and systemizing. Put the 2 things together, add a different growing up ambient and girls are usually less likely to focus on a single topic reaching an "expertise" level (this is also the reason because there are far less female "genius" than male "genius").


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17 Dec 2009, 2:16 pm

Fewer or less intense? I've understood they tend bto sdtand out in intensity but be more mainstream than those of AS boys (e.g horses, doll collecting, soap operas)

Mine were in chronological order:

Animals, age 3-11
Horses, age 3-15
Fiction and biographies, age 4-current
Greek mythology, age 9-12
Languages age 12-current
19th century (literature, clothing, customs) age 12-14
Music -Suede, age 14-17
British retro pop culture, esp 60s-70s, age 15-19
Mylene Farmer, age 20-22
Buddhism, age 20-current
My children and children's development, 21-current
Autism, age 25-current

In addition, I think one of my boyfriends became a special interest during our three years together. That was unhealthy. He was all I thought about and I related everything to him. Very vulnerable position.



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17 Dec 2009, 6:05 pm

I'm not an expert on the subject, not at all, but I do have a general opinion on the matter. I've spent alot of time here, reading, and will say that for the most part, guys do have more intense interests, and it also appears that they tend to have more of them. I wouldn't say that this is by a huge margin, or without exception, it's just a generalization, after reading through thousands of posts by both male and female members.


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17 Dec 2009, 6:22 pm

Notably 'special interests" are not actually necessary for a diagnosis, and from this it could be inferred that not everyone with AS will manifest them.

The criteria item in the DSM that pertains to special interests is only one of a set of three (of the diagnostic sub-set),and from memory only one item within this sub-set needs to be met to meet the diagnostic threshhold for this section of the criteria.



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17 Dec 2009, 7:28 pm

I'm female and my special interests are intense and long-term.

hell, I still love dinosaurs and if there's a show on about them I have to watch it. I have toy dinosaurs in my yard (they live there, and I plan to make a habitat for them. I had one at my old house) and I would love more than anything to have a giant dinosaur in my front yard (my husband says no, though... they neighbors think we're strange enough already). I have planned vacation travels so that I could visit dinosaur exhibits on the way or as the destination.

my intense obsession with horses only developed when I found out at the age of 4 that dinosaurs were extinct and that I couldn't have a real one. apparently that was a horrific and traumatizing day for everyone.



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17 Dec 2009, 8:25 pm

pandd wrote:
Notably 'special interests" are not actually necessary for a diagnosis, and from this it could be inferred that not everyone with AS will manifest them.

I was under that impression too. I don't think I have any special interests, myself. I do have long-term interests that I've always been enthusiastic about, but nothing unusually intense or specific.



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17 Dec 2009, 8:46 pm

is this the section in question?

(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:

1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects



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17 Dec 2009, 8:49 pm

would my bead collection fall under item 4? I always say I'm going to make jewelry but the simple fact is that I obsessively collect beads. I love them. I've been collecting them since someone gave me my first ceramic bead around the age of 12. I even buy beaded jewelry at yard sales so I can take them apart for the beads.



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18 Dec 2009, 4:30 am

My daughter has an intense interest for hourses... are them the "train" of Aspie-girls... seems pretty common...


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18 Dec 2009, 9:52 am

Interesting article at Newsweek on Females and Aspergers:

More than just 'Quirky'

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But much more research is needed before those anecdotes can be marshaled into a coherent picture. "Ultimately, we might want to look for different symptoms in girls," says Katherine Loveland, a psychiatry professor and autism researcher at the University of Texas in Houston. "But we have a lot more questions than answers at this point." Answering those questions has proven a tricky proposition: to draw any real conclusions, many more girls will have to be studied. And that means more of them will have to be diagnosed in the first place.

Anyone who knows a boy with Asperger's syndrome might tell you that the disorder (characterized by obsessive interests and an inability to connect with others) is impossible to miss. For starters, the things most boys get obsessed with are difficult to shrug off as quirky. Imagine, for example, a 7-year-old boy with encyclopedic knowledge of vacuum cleaners or oscillating fans but almost no friends or playmates.

Now, replace oscillating fans with something more conventional - say horses or books - and imagine a girl instead of a boy. A horse obsession, even one of frightening intensity, might fly under the radar. "Girls tend to get obsessed with things that are a little less strange," says Elizabeth Roberts, a neuropsychologist at the Asperger Institute at the New York University Child Study Center. "That makes it harder to distinguish normal from abnormal." That observation is consistent with a 2007 study of 700 children on the spectrum, which found that girls' obsessive interests reflected the interests of girls in the general population; the same was not true for boys.


zeldapsychology also tiped the WP forums off to this little gem:

Female Aspergers Syndrom Traits

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