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Kilroy
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03 Jan 2010, 10:50 am

look you obviously have no idea what people are really like

I would think most aspies could give less of a s**t what their parter votes for, they would just be grateful to have one!

I haven't met any right wing fundamentalist aspies, nor any who think sex is evil (gross yes, evil no)
I donno where you get these stupid "facts" but they're wrong



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03 Jan 2010, 1:48 pm

Of course, I could always lie and say I am an atheist and socialist.


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03 Jan 2010, 1:59 pm

Become a socialist! The sex is hotter over here!!

No, but seriously.

Honestly I think a large number of women are uninterested in sex. Personally I agree with (?) someone previously here who said it: Sex is totally normal to discuss, Mr. Rath and I talked about all these things frankly and I think it's part of why I have such a great sex life with him - because neither of us feels embarrassed. Me, because I was raised in a really sex-positive environment without a lot of hooey about it, and him because he's AS so he just is straightforward.

Don't listen to the garbage about women not wanting to talk about it or thinking you're after "one thing". Email that s**t back to high school or junior high.

A well adjusted, open and warm female shouldn't have a problem talking to you about sex, and should have a problem HAVING sex and wanting sex. I recently read a horrifying story in MSNBC about something like 45% of women having no interest in sex - - it was awful. So, just choose carefully. Mr. Rath found himself in a relationship previously that was sexless, because he interpreted her as "demure" and "shy" and "avoidant of discussion of sex" and he didn't want to look as if he was only after sex. Guess what? That never improved over 8 years.

So - - if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. (there's a joke in here somewhere but I can't quite sort it out). You deserve a girl who is warm and wants to be with you physically - that's my 2c.



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03 Jan 2010, 2:01 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
The fact that nearly all the Aspies who are single are either:

1. Hippies
2. Hipsters

(both of which refuse to date Christians who vote Republican)

3. Right-wing fundamentalists

(who think any sex outside of marriage or not leading to procreation is evil)

complicates things even more.


My advice here is to shut your pie hole (no offense) and compartmentalize those opinions aside. Fortunately 8 years of Bush cured Mr. Rath of a lot of this but he's still a strong libertarian and I'm an extreme leftist. However, he also wants to have sex and so do I so we don't sit and harangue that crap. And we find a lot of common ground in VALUES not POLITICS.



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03 Jan 2010, 3:16 pm

should define what you mean as hipster. I know for a fact though I am not a hippy, or a right winger at all. I dont fit on any scale really, or in any specific group for that matter. I can be a hippy because I enjoy chaos, and violence sometimes. I am definately not a right wing fundy. Im agnostic, and dont care about either the political right nor the political left.


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03 Jan 2010, 5:46 pm

A hipster is usually:

1. Politically left-wing/ultra-liberal
2. Vegan/vegetarian
3. Drinks European beers
4. Doesn't drive a car (because they are trying to make a statement about the environment)
5. Only buys clothes at thrift-stores
6. Likes many of the things I like (this is as far as the similarities go)
7. Usually atheist, agnostic, or practices some sort of pagan belief system
8. Refuses to associate with people outside their clique or who think differently from them

On the other hand, a right-wing fundamentalist:

1. Is Politically right-wing/ultra-conservative
2. Extremely prejudiced against LGBT people, and often racial and religious minorities
3. Do not watch any secular TV programs or listen to secular music
4. Believe that people should wait until marriage for sex, and that it should only be for procreation
5. Will often tell people that they will burn in hell if they even discuss anything that contradicts right-wing fundamentalist views.


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03 Jan 2010, 5:56 pm

Just for the record, I'm not a Hippie, Hipster, Hippo, Hermaphrodite, Hemophiliac, or Rightwing Fundie...

I'm just a plain old, geriatric punk, (rational) libertarian, deist...

But I ain't gonna do ya' either*.







*unless you have a wasp waist/childbearing hips :twisted:


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03 Jan 2010, 6:05 pm

It's not to say that I don't care about the environment, but I like being a motorist, and prefer "going green" in other ways.


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03 Jan 2010, 6:28 pm

you know people who are "hipsters" are more, you know accepting
paganism teaches acceptance or you get the f**k out
plain and simple

you don't understand people, it seems
and have been going on about this same issue for years now
you base things on politics, sex and stupid shows
no girl wants to hear "I don't wanna be with you if you don't like everything I do, and conform to my sex drive"
women aren't your personal f**k units
you seem to think otherwise



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03 Jan 2010, 6:52 pm

Actually, there were two that were the type I am looking for.

One of them wanted a guy who lived in the same town and never needs emotional support. She expected no burdens or inconveniences in a relationship, expected to never have to give anyone emotional support, thought asking for advice is a sign of weakness and an inability to communicate, and leaves a guy when things aren't going 100% her way. She ran off with another guy and refuses to even be my friend anymore. Incidentally, sex was never discussed.

The other one was more laid-back, but she had a drinking problem and went back to her drug-addicted ex-boyfriend who was disrespectful to her because she was so desperate for any sort of attention that she would take anyone she could get.

I came to the conclusion about hippies/hipsters because I did a poll on here that asked if they would consider dating outside their clique, and about 70% said they would not date a Christian who votes Republican.


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03 Jan 2010, 7:06 pm

and you're making your decisions by a poll...on 1 site?

fail...pure fail
you will never ever know how everyone things and is
you can't assume, you will simply fail that way
you don't leave the past behind and have no idea how people operate inside their minds
and you don't listen to advise or what I just said
you just say the same stuff over and over

not a good way too meet people
chicks don't like downers and people who just see them as f**k machines



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03 Jan 2010, 7:22 pm

There once were as many as 30 female Aspies on WP alone (I am on a few other AS forums in addition to WP), but nearly all of them either found someone else or left the forums.


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03 Jan 2010, 7:30 pm

who the hell cares
this is one site on all the interweb
its not even the only aspie one
god!!
you can't limit yourself to one friggin site
I understand the as-as thing, common s**t and feelings
but seriously
you won't find anyone here doing this same silly whining thread posting



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03 Jan 2010, 7:46 pm

The only reason I got an explanation from that first girl I mentioned was because I had a friend e-mail her on my behalf, and she was angry that I did it. I just wanted to know why she went back on her promise to "never disappear without a reason" (she cut contact for no reason), but she acted as if I were some sort of crazy psycho stalker who was out to get her.


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03 Jan 2010, 8:15 pm

I am about ready to just go out with the first person who shows me any sort of attention, because that's the best I can do.

Not only is there nobody I am compatible with sexually, but I have nobody to talk to about my political beliefs, religious beliefs, and special interests.


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03 Jan 2010, 9:43 pm

none of this matters to me

you can't expect a soul mate after one friggin try
you kind of have to look for that stuff and seek it out
no ifs and or buts
I don't care

either do that or do nothing