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02 Apr 2010, 1:50 pm

A person goes to an aspie gathering and talks to another aspie. The aspie says something to him and he gets offended by it and it was unintentional what the aspie did but the person decides to hold it against him and think he was so rude and takes it personally.

I would find it ironic because wouldn't you expect inappropriate comments if you went to an aspie gathering?



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02 Apr 2010, 2:06 pm

I would be upset by it. And I might even be more upset that in the midst of "like-minded" individuals, I was still either being offended, or offending others (depending on which Aspie I was in this scenario).



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02 Apr 2010, 2:06 pm

Yeah. Ironic but not unexpected.


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02 Apr 2010, 2:15 pm

It's the mindframe of "hey, these are going to be people I can relate to". Most of the people who get that idea then become excited to find that they're indeed others similar to them, only to forget that those similarites being reciprocated may not be as comforting as originally expected. The example that you posted as the basis for your topic describes how my uncle would most likely react in that situation. But then again, he and my brother spend a lot of time with each other so who knows?

It's something I think about actually because I try to weigh it out in my head if I'd be more happy around an NT person, or another Aspie. I've yet to meet a woman with AS, so I don't know how I'd handle a relationship with one. I love both my uncle and my brother, but I don't really enjoy their company for extended periods. They're both the Aspies who still love to discuss things in great detail, whereas I'm an Aspie that prefers solitude with their obsessions, and only feel comfortable talking for great lengths about those interests. Sometimes it makes me feel like I'm being selfish, but I don't want to get angry with them either.



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02 Apr 2010, 4:48 pm

Just look at this forum itself, there are always aspies misunderstanding each other! But other times, relating very well. :)



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02 Apr 2010, 5:19 pm

How to check if something is ironic: Sing the next line in Bender's voice.

"The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention, now that... is... irony!"

It is ironic to say something is ironic when you mean unexpected or coincidental.

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02 Apr 2010, 5:53 pm

It depends on what was said, I suppose.

If it were something like "I like your dress, it looks old..." I would cut them some slack- it was obviously an innocuous comment that misfired.

If it were something like "I think you're a moron" then I would hold it against them because a. they were deliberately rude, or b. they didn't mean to be rude but meant the comment. Sorry, why would I want to hang out with someone who thought badly of me?



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02 Apr 2010, 6:47 pm

justMax wrote:
How to check if something is ironic: Sing the next line in Bender's voice.

"The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention, now that... is... irony!"

It is ironic to say something is ironic when you mean unexpected or coincidental.

:D
Then 100% of metaphors are actually irony and lots of poetry is irony and most of NA conversation is irony.
Also Bender is irony.
Because he is a robot.
He was also once a god.
That was a great episode, because there was a galaxy in it that could communicate in binary.
Now I see the pun, it was a binary galaxy!



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02 Apr 2010, 7:13 pm

justMax wrote:
How to check if something is ironic: Sing the next line in Bender's voice.

"The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention, now that... is... irony!"

It is ironic to say something is ironic when you mean unexpected or coincidental.

:D


That's actually sarcasm, isn't it?


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03 Apr 2010, 2:34 am

I know everyone who comes here expects to go to an Aspie Convention, and for there to be total harmony; yah, good luck with that happening.

NTs seem closer to it because it's in their "wiring"; it isn't in ours.

It basically winds up being awkward and uncomfortable as you have non-social people attempting to be social towards each other...which doesn't work.

In fact, just a few minutes ago, I thought of a great way to look at it:

take a Star Wars convention. Fans go there, tell each other why they love Boba Fett so much, and about their awesome action figure collections.

Chances are most of these folks have lots of things in common, in relation to said subject.

That's not the case at an Autistic Convention...and whatever folks do have in common seem to be discussed in far better depth on message forums.

Autistic folks are narrowly focus on their interests...it doesn't mean though that they'll have the same narrow interests that another Autistic person does.

For instance...for me, it's toys, economics, and history.

For the next guy, it could be antelopes, glass sculptures, and Amish horse-drawn carriages.

and so on and so forth.

And that's why it comes off so awkward.



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03 Apr 2010, 10:02 pm

I would expect it. From being on here I get a bit shocked by some of the things said here.


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