Whatsherhame wrote:
Being optimistic isn't being stupid and not seeing obvious flaws, it's saying 'we can fix this and get things good again'.
Optimism is about erring on the side of "things are going alright or can be readily fixed". If you think things "aren't really
that bad then there's less of an incentive to address various social problems. Furthemore, which of the people below would you trust as a better reformist?
Person O: Oh, boy, things are good and we'll easily get change through! Hope, unity, change; hope, unity, change!
Person P: The path to reform will be long, costly, done with much blowback from the elite sectors of society, and may end up disasterous if we don't do things right. It won't come from any given "saviour", rather it'll take a lot of grassroots, bottom-up, organizing to pressure institutions for structural reform. It'll be a long road fought with much fustration.
I'm not sure about you, but I'd trust person P a lot more than person O when it comes to implementing structural reforms.
Whatsherhame wrote:
The Wall Street problems were caused by people gambling away the wealth of millions, the wall street problems were caused by parasites. Optimism doesn't equal being a parasite, in fact it's got nothing to do with it at all.
Optimism does somewhat correlate with complacency and getting screwed over. As Barbara Ehrenreich has documented a culture of overoptimism reigned supreme over Wall Street - anyone thinking that this bubble might burst being fired as a sour sport.
Whatsherhame wrote:
But if you honestly think that seeing that good in things is something you are 'reduced' to doing, then that's not really my problem.
This is a forum for rational debate. You've presented what I conceive of as a poor rationalization, I've criticized it as such, and the discussion has preceded. I see none of this as externalizing a "problem" of mine but rather as in arguing
for my worldview.