The 11th Doctor and Autistic traits of fictional characters

Page 5 of 5 [ 74 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Todesking
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Apr 2010
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,088
Location: Depew NY

15 Jun 2010, 12:12 am

Delirium wrote:
The Doctor is an alien. Of course he's going to act kind of "off."


I cannot believe how many people here cannot wait to plaster a famous person either real of fictional with an autistic sticker, :roll: Unless they come out say they are on the spectrum I just have to assume they are just a little flaky like most of hollywood.



Asp-Z
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Dec 2009
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,018

15 Jun 2010, 5:52 am

Moony wrote:
Anyone seen the new ep of Doctor Who, The Lodger? It was hilarious.


When he said he needs to pretend to me a normal human, I thought "just like me everyday" :lol:

I also liked when Craig said "Has anyone ever told you that you're weird?" and The Doctor replied "They never really stop!" :P



jayroo79
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 9 May 2010
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 225
Location: Newport, Rhode Island

15 Jun 2010, 4:51 pm

Delirium wrote:
jayroo79 wrote:
DiabloDave363 wrote:
yes cause any character or famous person who was different from the what you consider the "norm" automatically has some form of autism. god you people are f***ing stupid


:!:

Could it be that perhaps people are looking for a hero with similar qualities shared by themselves? I find it worrisome that you come in with such negativity and offer nothing but vitriol to a productive discussion.


Just because a hero has similar qualities to someone with ASD doesn't mean they actually have it.


I totally get that. Please reread what I said carefully.



Tokiodarling21
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jan 2011
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Posts: 134
Location: Eugene,Oregon

31 Jan 2013, 12:58 am

Hey that just shows we've just become cool! 8)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sillytilly92/5990388576/

I have this figure btw :)


_________________
"A freak of Nature stuck in reality...I don't fit the picture I'm not what you want me to be...sorry"-Line from "Strange" by Tokio Hotel ft. Kerli


Cornflake
Administrator
Administrator

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 50,864
Location: Over there

03 Feb 2013, 10:55 am

[Moved from Autism Politics, Activism, and Media Representation to Television, Film, and Video]


_________________
Giraffe: a ruminant with a view.


SilverWolf7
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2010
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 30
Location: Australia

08 Feb 2013, 8:43 pm

Hmm, while I totally agree with the whole "The Doctor is an alien, so we can't assign him Human traits" thing when it comes to AS...here's an interesting thing about the Doctor.

By his own species' definition, he was not NT.

I wouldn't call him AS, because he's not human. But he was something like the Gallifreyan version of it. I believe they used the word 'rogue'. Anyone who didn't fit in with normal society was put in this category. Which puts him in the same category as the Master to them.



SpeakerToAnimals
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 43

26 Feb 2013, 7:00 pm

'Renegade' rather than 'rogue'.

I don't think any of us are really arguing fictional characters - alien or not - have AS, only that we recognise particular traits that we share or 'identify' with. We see a character struggling to make sense of situation most people take for granted and we think 'yeah, I've been there.' Doesn't matter if the character has two hearts and a respiratory bypass system.

And in many ways the looser identification is more useful: if we had a human character explicitly labelled AS he or she would only represent a very small sample of us. We're on a spectrum - there would be more of us saying 'that's not my experience' than people saying 'yes, that's me - nail on the head!'

On a related note I don't think there are many authentic NT characters on TV either: they're largely based on folk psychology and are more predictable and consistent than real NT's. They don't complain about it because its how they like to see themselves.



SpeakerToAnimals
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 25 Feb 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 43

26 Feb 2013, 8:03 pm

I think there's a case for Amy Pond having AS traits. She had an isolated childhood, she made a pass at the Doctor having entirely misread his intentions, she wasn't aware of her own body's emotional responses in Vincent and the Doctor (alexythemia?) and even Rory wasn't really sure she loved him as much as he loved her.

And the hostility of some sections of Outpost Gallifrey towards her - that she was a 'cold b***h', 'vain', 'self-centered', etc. are typical NT responses to people on the spectrum.



KenM
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Age: 53
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,491
Location: Mass. USA

27 Feb 2013, 5:44 am

Well the writer, producer of Doctor Who, Steven Moffet, is also the producer, writer for the BBC Sherlock show. On that show, they pretty much said Sherlock has AS. So it would not surpise me if the new doctors have AS traits.



Garrenzmom
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 4

23 Mar 2013, 12:33 pm

In Triumph of a TIme Lord, Matt Hills quotes Steven Moffat:

"I'm going to be honest and fans may hate me for it but they have to remember that I am a fan myself. A proper list-making-borderline-autistic fan...."

If he's going to use "autistic" as a self-descriptor, don't you find it at least a little bit likely he's going to use autistic-like traits in some of his characters?