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19 May 2010, 6:02 pm

http://www.sujeet.com/


Based upon everything i've read about Sujeet thus far, he
is not one of those rare people with Down syndrome who
score within the average (or higher) range on IQ tests. I am
not even 100% certain that anybody with DS ever has. I have
heard about a few cases on the internet, but I haven't been able
to confirm them. I even heard of one case of a person with DS
who consistently scores around 120 on the WAIS tests.


Nonetheless....I suspect that there are a few people with
DS who score within the average or higher ranges on IQ
tests. There definitely are a few people with Williams and
Rett's syndrome who do and both of these disorders usually
come with some degree of MR. Now granted, Sujeet is probably
a "higher-functioning" person with DS strictly in terms of IQ scores,
but i'm not even positive about that. I would guess that he wouldn't
score much beyond the borderline range of intellectual functioning
(71-85) though.

I have no problem with any self-promotion someone like
Sujeet WISHES to engage in. I DO have a major problem with
the typical media potrayals of people like him and how our
"compassionate" society largely views people like him. They are
treated like cute and cuddly dancing bears with extraordinary
talents dancing bears usually don't have. There is a disgusting
and dehumanizing freak-show element to all this no better than
what John Merrick (the so-called "Elephant man") endured in
Victorian England.

People like Sujeet and an untold number of those like him demonstrate,
once again, the worthlessness of IQ tests. These tests and the psychologists
who designed them and promoted their utility have done incalculable
harm to millions. They have regulated millions to a status lower than even
"racial" minorities have endured for hundreds of years in America. They
falsely and criminally assured millions of people (and those who care for
them) of their "uneducable" status. They have robbed millions of bright
and talented people of their true potential and left them wallowing in
institutions, the streets, prisons and graves. Not that people who don't
have any talents like Sujeet's ought to wallow in the aforementioned
either but my point is clear enough I think.


Sujeet has, for reasons I may never know for certain, achieved things
I have only dreamt of. I scored 143 on the last professionally-administered
IQ test I took. I don't even have a black belt in boiling eggs let alone Tae
Kwon Do. I'm lucky if I can pluck out something that resembles a few
AC/DC songs on the guitar let alone play SIX musical instruments with
proficiency. Why is it that few people view the things Sujeet can do as
a form of "intelligence"? A form of intelligence not usually measured on
IQ tests. I'd say alot of what Sujeet does would be impossible for many
supposedly "intelligent" people who write for the New York Times and
administer psychometric tests in their plush suburban offices.



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19 May 2010, 6:36 pm

The only good thing I ever learned from my IQ tests is that I am very good at one thing (verbal) and quite dismal at others (shapes). Thus ended disabling expectations re my ability to boil eggs, while at the same time encouraging my writing.

I think we might be better off seeing IQ as a suggestion rather than a pigeon hole.



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19 May 2010, 6:36 pm

Yes, I have heard of Sujeet. He and his wife both have Down's Syndrome...and they reside in Rome, New York. Sujeet's parents are from India, though Sujeet was born and raised here in New York State. His mom and dad know the importance of an education, which is why Sujeet is quite an accomplished musician, and they provided him with many opportunities while he was growing up... despite his having Down's Syndrome.

Sujeet meet his young wife at a social activity in New York State specifically created for those individuals with mental retardation and Down's Syndrome...after dating for awhile, they decided to marry and their marriage was given media attention on one of the national networks (I think it was CBS) a few years ago. They live together in a nice apartment but, both require assistance by a case manager in order to live independently.



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21 May 2010, 1:33 am

Horus wrote:
I DO have a major problem with the typical media potrayals of people like him and how our "compassionate" society largely views people like him. They are treated like cute and cuddly dancing bears with extraordinary talents dancing bears usually don't have. There is a disgusting and dehumanizing freak-show element to all this


i can see what you mean.

this guy is very interesting. thanks for posting.

but people do the same "freak show" thing when nonverbal or barely verbal autistics type or are assisted in typing their thoughts. i like to think that people aren't just exploiting them but actually are interested in their experience. i certainly am.


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21 May 2010, 6:19 am

I've heard of him. I remember reading about him, in the news, a few years ago.


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