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18 May 2012, 5:22 am

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As a polite guy, I believe that women should feel free to make their decision strictly on the merits or lack of same,
and really wish that all women felt totally free to NOT wear one, at any time, at any place, at any event.

I think it's a real shame that women feel such "social pressure" that they sometimes make decisions that they would prefer to do otherwise. Don't women have enough problems without stupid societal expectations??
Why must not wearing a bra under clothes in public be considered by some to be taboo? I really wish that
we could get over, or get past, such narrow "thinking". This includes eliminating breast size as a consideration.


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+1.



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19 May 2012, 5:43 pm

I can't bear wearing an upper decker flopper stopper with the correct strap size. The cups on all mine fit, but the straps are miles too loose. I won't go into a changing room with a bra fitter, because it just turns into a battle! I need a bra because of my E cup size – I still have firm boobicles that look OK if I don't wear one, but I get neck pain – but I just can't bear the strap to fit as it 'should'. My strap measurement is 34", but I wear a 38". It seems to be enough to give me some support and stop the stress on my neck.

I can manage at home if I'm just sitting and watching TV in the evenings – and it's just the best feeling when you've taken the ruddy thing off. It's like taking your boots off after a 20-mile hike!



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18 Jun 2012, 2:12 am

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I would love not to have to wear a bra, but I feel very uncomfortable without one. Also, I have always hated the feel of a top rubbing against my nipples, which a bra prevents. It does annoy me, though, how men can just walk about topless if they want, and women for some reason aren't allowed to.


I'm not too sure why that is. I don't know of many guys who would complain about it.



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18 Jun 2012, 3:22 am

Claude wrote:
As a polite guy, I believe that women should feel free to make their decision strictly on the merits or lack of same,
and really wish that all women felt totally free to NOT wear one, at any time, at any place, at any event.

I think it's a real shame that women feel such "social pressure" that they sometimes make decisions that they would prefer to do otherwise. Don't women have enough problems without stupid societal expectations??
Why must not wearing a bra under clothes in public be considered by some to be taboo? I really wish that
we could get over, or get past, such narrow "thinking". This includes eliminating breast size as a consideration.


Claude

i got over that "social pressure" recently. before this topic was even posted i had been going braless more and more. after i came to this thread and saw the one post about antibra.com or whatever it was. i at this point only wear a bra once a week when i go to church on sundays and that might be eliminated too. i now strive to be comfortable no matter what looks i get or if anyone actually says anything to me (which has yet to happen) i have heard whispers behind me before but i have learned to ignore them. i am at the point where i just want to be ME and not care what is "socially" appropriate.


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18 Jun 2012, 2:09 pm

ButterflyLady wrote:
Claude wrote:
As a polite guy, I believe that women should feel free to make their decision strictly on the merits or lack of same,
and really wish that all women felt totally free to NOT wear one, at any time, at any place, at any event.

I think it's a real shame that women feel such "social pressure" that they sometimes make decisions that they would prefer to do otherwise. Don't women have enough problems without stupid societal expectations??
Why must not wearing a bra under clothes in public be considered by some to be taboo? I really wish that
we could get over, or get past, such narrow "thinking". This includes eliminating breast size as a consideration.


Claude

i got over that "social pressure" recently. before this topic was even posted i had been going braless more and more. after i came to this thread and saw the one post about antibra.com or whatever it was. i at this point only wear a bra once a week when i go to church on sundays and that might be eliminated too. i now strive to be comfortable no matter what looks i get or if anyone actually says anything to me (which has yet to happen) i have heard whispers behind me before but i have learned to ignore them. i am at the point where i just want to be ME and not care what is "socially" appropriate.


Good for you. I think we'd be better off if more people thought that way... Not that we should all just say "screw everyone else, I'm gonna do what I want no matter who it hurts." But, you not wearing a bra only really affects you. If others are offended, they can always not look.



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19 Jun 2012, 2:29 am

It disappoints me that women still feel under this pressure, actually – it's as if all the hard work done by feminists in the 60s and 70s never happened. I feel lucky to have been guided in my upbringing by a feminist (who simply didn't wear a bra and no-one else ever thought it was any of their concern), and to have been carefully taught how societal pressures on women work. Whilst I've never been a hard-line feminist, I grew up in the 1970s with, for instance, a healthy disregard for the way women are portrayed in the media, and I'm utterly dismayed by the way some of today's young women are affected by it. Someone surveyed 9-year-old girls in Britain about whether they'd ever consider cosmetic surgery – 9 year-olds!! – and a high percentage of them said they would. Thousands and thousands of British women go for breast augmentation each year, without counting all the other kinds of surgical mutilation that goes on.

So...women...whilst I know virtually none of you would be vulnerable enough to these kinds of pressures to go as far as cosmetic surgery, understand that the pressure to wear a bra is part of the same deal. If you like reading, look up some of the feminist literature of the 60s and 70s. It might seem hard line and even over the top now, but those women had to go to those extremes, and they were fighting for you. Reading about their struggles might just make you feel justifiably angry at the pressures that society – and not all of these are men, many of whom have been brave enough to change – places on women. Or at least, just pissed-off enough not to feel you have to wear a bra. :wink:



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22 Jun 2012, 10:57 am

I wouldn't feel right without a bra on, but my friends have criticised that I should wear a more shaped bra. I always worry then that the horrible offensive glares I get from other females of any age are to do with them somehow noticing that I don't have a proper bra on.


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23 Jun 2012, 6:24 am

I have a love/hate relationship with bras. I have a large bust so going without a bra in public causes me way too much stress and anxiety. Yet, I've found it is hard to find a great bra and wearing an inferior one can also cause stress; physical pain plus not fitting right can be embarrassing.

In a nutshell though; I absolutely adore bras that fit perfectly (though I haven't had many) and I love basic sports bras.

In the perfect world though it'd be great to go bra-less without it being an issue.



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23 Jun 2012, 4:59 pm

Moonpenny wrote:
If you like reading, look up some of the feminist literature of the 60s and 70s. It might seem hard line and even over the top now, but those women had to go to those extremes, and they were fighting for you. Reading about their struggles might just make you feel justifiably angry at the pressures that society – and not all of these are men, many of whom have been brave enough to change – places on women. Or at least, just pissed-off enough not to feel you have to wear a bra. :wink:

^very good point. we, as women, need to fight for the right to go braless if we want to without work place discrimination, or being bullied/criticized because we aren't wearing one or like Joe90 is having done to her, being criticized because she would rather wear a bra that is comfortable instead of "shaped". i mean our breasts aren't sex organs!! women didn't always wear bras or things of the like. i have done research on it. women started to "lift" their breasts to draw the attention of men (like we really needed any help with that) but that is one of the main things i have seen from many different sources.


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23 Jun 2012, 10:37 pm

I like the pressure of the bra. When I was a teen I would only wear sports bras because I didn't like all the seems. As I got older the feeling of the pressure and support got to be more important than the discomfort of the seems so now I wear padded with an underwire. I used to NEED to sleep in a bra. I don't HAVE to now, but sometimes I'll put on a sports bra to sleep (the underwire is to pokey to sleep in).



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05 Aug 2012, 1:03 am

I wear a bra almost every day because I probably wouldn't get away with going braless. Sometimes I wear sports bras.


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06 Aug 2012, 3:45 pm

Not that I enjoy it, but I prefer wearing bras. I am definitely not someone who can get away with going bra-less.


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06 Aug 2012, 9:36 pm

I have not been able to stand to wear a bra since the 1970's. I have a sensory thing that I am bothered by having anything bind me on my ribs. I have small boobs but now that I am getting older and saggier, I wish I could tolerate bras. I wear camisoles and self adhesive nipple covers (can get them from JCPenny), but doesn't help my sagging. Does anyone else have sensory issues with bras? Any suggestions on dealing with sensory problems with clothing?



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07 Aug 2012, 9:25 am

I wore a bra all day until I was around 42. Then I read that wearing them could be unhealthy. I also didn't work for 3 years so didn't have to worry about appearances. Then when I was 44 I had reduction mammoplasty because they were giving me back problems so now I can get away with not wearing one. But if the shirt is too revealing, I will wear a camisole under my shirt to hide any "nipplage" that may be evident. :P


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07 Aug 2012, 12:36 pm

I am a dress size 8-10 (USA size 4-6) and require a DD - E cup so I cannot get way with braless as they bounce around a lot and this is uncomfortable.


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07 Aug 2012, 2:32 pm

I'm really big in that department, with a very small ribcage to support them, so I can't really get away without wearing a bra, or they wind up engulfing my waist and getting in the way.

However, I don't find bras very comfortable, in large cup sizes the straps are always spaced so widely that they start under the armpit in the front, and dig in on their way up to the shoulder! I cant go any smaller or the underwire will be sitting on breast tissue.
I sometimes go without when around the house.

I never wanted breasts, and one day I hope to have them removed.