I'm tired of the disgruntled so-called men

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Locustman
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25 Aug 2010, 6:46 am

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I was a shy aspie and I missed out on relationships with girls that liked me as i was scared of being intimate, the thought of having to be touched, taking my clothes off etc was too much for me. Also, I was too shy to open conversations with women, and those women who approached me, i would flee from having sex with as i couldn't handle it - even though I liked them and I beat myelf up about these failures lots. It especially makes me feel bad when I talk to female friends who tell me how men come on to them, be forceful in asking them for sex, chat them up, and I just think how crap was I,,I didn't realise how utterly crap i was compared to normal guys as a teen. I have improved a lot now though and became more confident and brave which enabled me to have relationships.

However, I always blamed myself, I was not bitter toward women for this. I knew too well that many women liked me and would have had sex with me had i not flee from it. I just used to freeze up. It was my fault. I dont think I am a true aspie as when i get confidence and get over the fear people find me nice to talk to and my social skills are much better. I think i might be just someone pushed down by a crap shy childhood.

However in the early old days of WP I did used to complain a lot about some of the more able members and how easy they seemed to find it. there seemed to be a few people on the site then who were very social and spent a lot of time boasting about their full social lives and how many partners they had. Even when they complained about their crap relationships or nasty partners it seemed like everyone took it for granted that these people were more mature and serious than everyody else on the site and all became mods and lorded it over everyone and put down the immature men.

I found it unfair as I don't think AS men choose to be immature and annoying, I think their immaturity is thrust on them against their will by not being social enough to get friends and relationships. And I think if we are being fair, there are some immature aspie females out there too and it is not their fault either. Those clever mods had lots of relationships and a full social life, even if the relationships were bad due to their AS problems, they got to grow and become mature and wise through them. The crap aspies never have a chance to grow and become more mature by meeting more people and having friendships and relationships. There should be more sympathy either way from both groups, but that takes maturity and the ability to see life and different problems from someone else' point of view, which unfortunatly are both hard for aspies.

I myself am more mature than when I used to complain about that and have got to know aspies who have had relationships but are still a bit immature and crap, aspies who are celibate but are mature and wise and taken seriously by people, aspies including females who are shy like me and had the same problems as me. However for reasons above i dont think either side should put down or be jealous of the other. I had a relationship a few years ago when i was really depressed and worried about life and it did not help cure me as I thought it might. If anything it made it worse to handle a relationship when i was in a state of feeling bad about life.


What a superb post. I feel no need to add anything to this thread now, because you've pretty much summed up how I feel about it.


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25 Aug 2010, 7:22 am

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Seriously, I'm sick of this current breed of so-called men whining about how women have it so easy, even if we have ASD, even if we have a LFA to look after, no matter how hard we have it, we're female and our issues don't count.

I'm sick of hearing how we're so lucky because all we have to do is look pretty.

Really?

Wow.

If only.

Well lucky me.

I only have a LFA brother.

I only tore my obliques while restraining him from smashing himself in the face with his fist. I still haven't my usual flexibility in that side.

I only drove everyone away as a teen by incessantly talking about my obsessions. I won't tell you what they were.

Oh and then we have women with more severe ASD. Let's not forget them...they're so lucky. They've only gotten RAPED because they suck at reading body language and couldn't tell that he was dangerous.

They only get blinding headaches from sensory overload just from going outside.

They only get rejected by everyone because they don't know that you shouldn't monologue to complete strangers about rare insects or the 117th element.

Seriously you narcissists, think before you spew out your freaking baseless anger. So you have a hard time getting a date. Same here. You don't see me spew venom at all men everywhere.


Erm, do you feel like this all of the time?

I've tried to see what you are saying, however, I've never met a man that acts the way you describe.

I guess you are either looking for relationships which self destruct, or, you need to get out more.

I'm not trying to be mean to you.

Are you sure you have Aspergers?

You have mentioned 'men' as if the acts of one apply to all of them, while suggesting you don't like to be stereotyped.

You are not making any sense at all.

I'd suggest you make an appointment with your psychiatrist and show them your email - and pretty soon you'll find yourself tripping the light fantastic on the strongest anti depressants known to humanity.

Good luck and stay happy.


Nope, I am attacking a certain type of men for their observed BEHAVIOUR.

Hence I said 'so-called men'.

There were quite a few of them mouthing off on here not so long ago...


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25 Aug 2010, 3:59 pm

Locustman wrote:

What a superb post. I feel no need to add anything to this thread now, because you've pretty much summed up how I feel about it.


Thanks Locustman, thats really kind of you to read and praise my long post.