Church 'praying' about plan to burn Quran

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If you are choosing the lesser of two evils, you are still choosing evil.

Try and find the middle ground.

Edit.... What's the use??????????????????????????????

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Oh you funny christians, how your antics amuse and baffle me so.

Ironic. If I said that to most people around here, I'd be considered the polar opposite of sane

Should Christian pastors who burn Korans be burned at the stake (symbolically) for being politically incorrect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pe ... s_heretics

Is crucifixion (symbolic) the preferred solution today to burning at the stake or drowning?

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How about religious leaders like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin?

Are they heretics?

Should books written by Beck and Palin be burned? Banned from public libraries?

Wouldn't it be "put the lives of US soldiers in Afganistan in danger"? And by being in an invading army aren't they...?
That's it. Burn CNN.

Tha parallels are bloody hilarious.

I only hope someone roasts communion wafers along the bonfire so as to make the event one of inter-faith offensiveness.

The idea's not that original, PZ Myers did it two years ago.

The disk through which the nail has been driven is a communion wafer.

What's interesting is that this church is in roughly the same region as the guy who pipe-bombed a mosque.

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/florid ... elp-nation


Jacksonville and Gainesville are about maybe an hour or so away.

In at least one news article on this I read today, I read the following quote from the so-called Pastor Terry Jones:

"It is not in my expertise to know exactly what is written in the Koran." I honestly don't know either and most likely neither do a lot the angry members here who are supporting this crap. The fact is, this guy is not only against Muslims, but against Jews, homosexuals etc. and others as well. That makes him and his so-called "church" pretty hypocritical calling another religion one of hate when that is exactly he is promoting. Also, not only has he written a book entitled "Islam is of the Devil" and planning to make a bonfire of Korans on 9/11 when he doesn't even know what that book contains, he likely can't even read the ones he's planning to burn because they are probably written in Arabic. So, the act of burning Korans does more to illustrate what a small-minded pompous prick this Pastor Terry Jones is than anything about Islam. This achieves absolutely nothing for the victims of 9/11.

The first thing to think about is that while you are enjoying freedom of expression, the news of this Koran burning spectacle will reach countries in the east that do not have freedom of expression nor freedom of the press. The fact that many other religious leaders in America condemn the act and that Paster Terry Jones is just a small-minded pompous prick with only 50 members of his pathetic little church will not appear in the media there. The only thing that the Muslims in those countries will see in the media is how intolerant and hateful Christians, and in particular American Christians, are towards Muslims in general. As well as the fact that the Taliban as well as governments like the one in Iran with a political agenda will use this whole episode as part of their propaganda. This whole act will achieve absolutely nothing useful.

Another thing to think about is that freedom of expression is not absolute and has it's limits. It may not be the case in America but in a lot of other countries, freedom of expression excludes any right to hate speech. Those Danish Mohammed cartoons were banned in South Africa for precisely the reason that a Muslim cleric took the case to the Constitutional Court on the basis that they were hate speech and won. While I didn't agree with those cartoons being banned and even googled for them on the internet to see what the fuss was about, I would absolutely agree with a decision ban a Koran burning display like this one which is fuelled by hate. Whether or not anyone likes the Muslims, if something like this is allowed then the Ku Klux Klan must also be allowed spew their bile of hatred towards blacks because that's what this is promoting.

It has to be (at least in story) a stolen communion wafer after it's been blessed. Otherwise, it's just a wafer with no meaning.

Can post a link to this source? This has been said before by other people and I'll say it again. The Muslim birthrate is NOT increasing. It is falling just like the birthrate of everyone else in Europe because of contraception and so on. This was a subject of another thread in this forum.

It appears that the good Rev. Jones is a thief as well.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20 ... an-burning




This comes as a great shock to me since religious leaders are usually fundamentally good and upstanding folks and not thieves, sex offenders, racists, murderers, torturers, etc.....



*sigh*


Fundie Christians are becoming rather predictable and yawn-worthy.

Do any of those statistics say anything about 'the Muslim population in America?' The CAIR Islamic advocacy group puts the Muslim population in the USA at present at about 7.5 million. I linked the source for that back in the relevant thread. I honestly from my own experience believe that 7.5 million Islamics could well be an accurate number, or even a low estimate.

Those statistics about the 'falling Muslim birthrates,' honestly seem to me to be cherry-picked stats, and one that actually mostly addressed the populations of mono-faith Muslim countries, and said nothing about the situation of Muslims in America. I want to know what their growth looks like in THIS country, not Iran.

In St. Louis at least, and every other city I've been in in America, even small rural cities, the Muslims and South Asians are building a huge presence. Walk in to any hotel or convenience store and its a better than even chance you get a Muslim or an Indian working behind the counter. They are in the USA in huge numbers and are quite the visible minority. In St. Louis, Muslims are definitely more a common sight than Latinos IMO. Pretty much every other business you enter you will be helped by a non-Oriental Asiatic. They are a hugely prominent minority now in the USA.

The Muslims are building their colonies and reproducing. While we are all distracted(myself included,) by the Palins and Glenn Beck, we may wake up one day living in a Caliphate whilst we were focused on Pat Robertson. In the Suburbs, Asians are moving into house after house. They are forming a huge presence and are generating cash for themselves, whle remaining relatively insular, and not really assimilating. Islamic intolerance is the real threat to our basic freedoms and religious freedom.

Even if the Muslim birthrate is not at the cliche '8 kids per woman,' I'd not dismiss it as a threat at all if that number was knocked down to just 3 or 4. I see veils and that all over the malls and such, and it seems to me that they always have a bunch of children in tow. Every time I go any public place, it seems I see nothing but Muslim women.

While some preachers certainly talk alot, if you actually visit a megachurch congregation, you are likely to find mostly aged people and mabye some middle-aged professionals. Some kids will be there but its hard to say that they are actually active in the worship. These MegaChurchs do get some of the younger generation, but it seems that at least 90% of the millenials are solidly for the Obamanation. I'm just not seeing the big threat coming from this quarter. The Pastors can talk alot, but their congregations are not the vigorous types who will really agitate to impose a "Christian Theocracy," as these people already have a good place in the status quo.

If they want to practice Christian principles and live by the bible on their own for all of their life situations, than more power to them.

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