Does talking to attractive women make you feel wierd?

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Jacoby
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14 Sep 2010, 4:11 pm

I don't think this problem is exclusive to AS. :)

Certainly doesn't help tho.



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14 Sep 2010, 4:57 pm

Jacoby wrote:
I don't think this problem is exclusive to AS. :)

Certainly doesn't help tho.




No it's not a problem exclulsive to AS. Alot of women in our contemporary society seem to exhibit a somewhat intimidating attitude towards men. For the most part....I hold them blameless for this however. Rather....I think the way women have been treated by alot of men in our male-dominated, patriarchial and misogynistic society has everything to do with this attitude.

Feminist author Naomi Wolf has written some interesting things which may be relevant here. She claimed that alot of women in her city (NYC) are complaining that many men don't seem to want to have anything to do with them anymore. Instead... they are turning to porn rather than seeking out sexual/romantic relationships with them. The women she's spoken to about all this seem to be mostly young, professional, "sex in the city" types.

I think the whole thing is a "vicious cycle" of sorts. Many men have treated women like crap for centuries now and women are rightfully no longer tolerating it. Human beings often take things to extremes however and now some women view every male who looks at them in a manner they don't approve of as misogynistic scumbags. The media and Madison ave. reinforce negative stereotypes of both men and women as well. Now men are realizing that alot of women may view them in a less-than positive light no matter how "nice" they are in reality. Therefore....I think this is what's largely driving the sociological phenomenon Wolf spoke of providing it has any merit in the first place. I happen think that it does more or less.

Also....I think rightfully or wrongfully....men are receiving alot of mixed messages from women these days. For example....you'll hear alot women complaining that they can't find a "nice guy" and yet just as many of them seem to go for "bad boys" who treat them like dirt. I guess many men just feel like they're "d**med if they do and d**med if they don't", so to speak. There really needs to be a better dialogue between the genders and until that happens...the gender "war" will continue unabated in this society. Men and Women need to state their general expectations of one another in no uncertain terms. Sure different people have different expectations....but I do think SOME expectations could largely apply across the board.



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14 Sep 2010, 5:29 pm

Occasionally, yes, but not necessarily "attractive"; more like, those who evidently spend a lot of effort on their appearance. It's not just females, of course, but culturally, females are supposed to care about appearance more...

And yes, I'm a girl too. But that doesn't mean I don't feel a little intimidated by these girls who have apparently got a great deal of time invested in looking good for others. I never know whether they will be embarrassed by me.


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14 Sep 2010, 5:39 pm

I get the feeling I killed another thread here :? I get nervous when talking about things like this as they are pretty touchy issues. I always feel like i've said something offensive and/or stupid because nobody ever responds to me when I write about the sort of things contained in my previous post.



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14 Sep 2010, 6:16 pm

Nope, not at all. Attractive women are women first and attractive second, and for me at least, women are generally pretty easy to talk to.



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14 Sep 2010, 6:49 pm

I have always viewed attractive women to be superior to myself. And yes I can't talk to attractive women or even look them in the eye. its quite pitiful actually. Looking at attractive makes me depressed because I know that since I don't really have social skills to interact with them I could never have girls like that in my life the way normal men do.



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14 Sep 2010, 7:56 pm

Mojave wrote:
I have always viewed attractive women to be superior to myself. And yes I can't talk to attractive women or even look them in the eye. its quite pitiful actually. Looking at attractive makes me depressed because I know that since I don't really have social skills to interact with them I could never have girls like that in my life the way normal men do.




This seems to be the general consensus for males with Asperger's.



I'm no exception to it. :(



I've been with a few attractive girls in my life....but they usually kick me to the curb after a few days, hours..... or even....minutes.