Dr. Nicolas Dubin Caught by the FBI

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In the US, it is considered HORRIFIC! You could end up in jail, and the inmates are often more likely to attack you.

This is entirely possible.
I have not seen one reliable source with accurate info on this.
Do you know who writes the articles for the Examiner? I DO, that's who. All you have to do is register with the web site, post a profile, and suddenly you're an expert writer for the Examiner.

Who do you think writes the articles for Angie's List? People who pay them to write the articles.

Who do you think writes the text for web sites? ME - even though I may know absolutely nothing about the subject matter. If I can make it sound good, make good use of SEO, and my spelling and grammar are passable, that's all that matters.

Who do you think writes profiles for dating web sites? I DO... or, at least I wrote one. It was for a web site based in Romania and all I had to do was make up a flattering bio of some girl.

I can't count all the forum topic conversations/arguments that went on and on about something that is based purely on speculation. Bait is what I call it. There are actually people who are paid to post inflammatory topics just to help boost traffic to a web site.

I still don't know if the charges are true, or not, but my opinion of Nicks book remains the same: It is very good.

You are both correct - I found and posted a link to what looked to me like a more recent story, and I did not follow any of the links within it. As far as I can see, having explored further, all the remaining pages come from blog sites and none from news sites.

Some have the outward appearance of a credible news site (e.g. http://psychrapereporter.wordpress.com/ ... rnography/) and some of the dead links (eg from http://article.wn.com/view/2010/10/15/P ... Porn_Case/) are to sites like MSNBC, but these are not available in archive.org

I would be very interested in what is going on.

One report stated he said that he knew what he was doing was illegal. Considering the lack of coverage or deleted articles, it does seem fishy though.

he said he knew viewing and downloading kiddy porn to be illegal....
he never said he did that....

Those media articles are presented to appear to say what you believed. Not true.

Maybe this is what happens to outspoken aspies and activists. Doesnt surprise me if the feds set him up, not like its the first time for them....

People who photography naked kids and molest them should be arrested, they are criminals...

But "downloaders"? you can find the most insane s**t on the internet, and it's so easy to have access to anything with two clicks. Would you want to be jailed because you clicked on the wrong s**t?
I had a friend who used to collect gorish pictures of freak accidents and car crashes. Man that guy was a weirdo. I, myself, love watching "fail compilation" where tons of stupid people get hurt. Am I a criminal now? I love horror movies too, sue me. It didn't make me want to behead anyone so far though.
Humans are voyeurs, get over it.

And basically for those saying that "we should arrest them for what they would potentially do", then it legimitizes "Thought Crimes".

This wouldn't be the first time the media has lied about someone.

Thread moved from General Autism Discussion to Autism Politics, Activism and Media Representation.

If you look on the Michigan Sex Offender registry you find that Mr. Dubin was registered, for the first time, on 4/13/2013.

It gives no new details - but him having to register is clear enough.

It's a real disappointment because his book on anxiety is very good. However, in light of this development, I found the section entitled "Shadow Dancing", within that book, deeply disturbing. I think I would have been disturbed with it anyway.

Okay, I am convinced - the registration http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/PSORSearc ... d=20049375 has a mugshot which looks like the same person. I assume that mipsor.state.mi.us is genuine and a registration is hard to fake.

He actually wrote a new book about his personal experience called, “The Autism Spectrum, Sexuality, and the Law”, along with Tony Atwood and Isabelle Henault.

The book came out in 2014, 4 years after this thread was started in response to his being charged with possession of child porn. I can not find out what eventually happened to him legally. I hope the book was not written to justify his own possible pedophilia.

You know, I’ve actually read this book. And in it he talks about how he was arrested, the events from his past that lead up to it, and his experience in the criminal justice system. He also explains that his problem is not that he is a pedophile, but that his sexuality was frozen in time since upper elementary school. I highly recommended this book to everyone on this thread, as well as to everyone else here on WP.

Um, hello? Child porn is wrong because children cannot consent to sexual acts. Also, it exploits these vulnerable individuals for these criminals’ perverted sexual gain and leaves them traumatized. How hard is that for y’all to understand?

Dubin is no angel here. He has a doctorate in Psychology, so he knows that child porn is illegal. And he says that he found most of it by accident, which is NOT possible. He’d have to deliberately search for it to find that much of it.

I call BS on this man.

I hope you're correct that child porn is hard to find NOW.

However, in the not-too-distant past, I recall reading lots of complaints, by a variety of people with a variety of points of view, about how the big popular porn sites like Pornhub weren't being careful enough to keep under-age porn off their sites. Googling "Pornhub child porn" just now has led me to relevant news stories here, here, here, and here.

So Dubin's story about running into a lot of child porn accidentally was indeed plausible at the time his porn-viewing occurred.

Also, while child porn is clearly wrong, what is probably not intuitively obvious to a lot of people (unless they happen to have studied the issue) is the extreme penalties for merely viewing child porn images online. Surely the wrath of the law ought to focus primarily on those who actually make child porn photos/videos and/or display them on a website or otherwise distribute them?

I would favor a law requiring people who encounter child porn images online to report them, but it doesn't seem to me that merely encountering but failing to report such images should result in long prison terms and having to register as a sex offender.

It seems to me very unfair that Pornhub is now being merely sued, rather than its executives arrested and charged with crimes, whereas a lot of people who merely viewed under-age porn on Pornhub and other similar websites have had their computers seized and then got sent to prison for multi-year sentences and required to register as sex offenders.

Also it is generally rather creepy and "1984"-style Big Brother-ish for the police to be spying on individual people's internet connections to try to catch people viewing child porn.

Worse, it is highly likely that cops have sometimes been arresting the wrong people entirely. For example, a lot of cops seem to think I.P. addresses are unique to individual machines, which they are not. (See Network address translation.) So it wouldn't surprise me at all if a lot of totally innocent people -- not even occasional accidental viewers of child porn -- have had their homes ransacked by cops with no-knock warrants, their computers seized, and then "evidence" planted on their computers by cops who were too embarrassed to admit they were wrong.

Where I disagree with Dubin is his making what happened to him an autism-specific issue. To me it is a much more general government-overreach, privacy rights, and general human rights issue, probably harming lots of NT's too.

For more about this and related issues, see various articles linked in the thread Child porn law (& enforcement) reforms needed?, which I posted in the "Adult Autism Issues" section about a year ago.

The media just needs to run there mouth , no matter the topic..

They've just got better at running it on certain topics