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Craig28
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09 Nov 2010, 1:59 pm

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Why do people get so riled up when AS is called a disease?


Because it is medically incorrect to name it such?


Isn't it also medically incorrect to diagnose AS and then give shoddy services deliberately?



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09 Nov 2010, 2:28 pm

Craig28 wrote:
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Why do people get so riled up when AS is called a disease?


Because it is medically incorrect to name it such?


Isn't it also medically incorrect to diagnose AS and then give shoddy services deliberately?


Well, if we wish to travel down the same road we might as well just diagnose AS as Shingles and call it a virus. AS is not a disease, it doesn't fit the medical descriptors for a disease, and thus calling it a disease is wrong.

Shoddy services are a part of the NHS that don't just blight AS but any and all problems, disorders and yes, even diseases.Not sure how relevant that is to this thread though.


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09 Nov 2010, 3:17 pm

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The word you have taken offense to in the article, 'sjukdom' doesn't just translate into 'disease'. According to my dictionary it also translates to 'disorder'.


Both Wikipedia, at least one online translator and me myself (Who is, in all honesty, very good at Swedish) translates "sjukdom" to "disease", and the only other possible meaning is sickness/illness. Plus, "disorder" is (I know this for a fact, trust me on this one) is "störning".


Okej, säg så då, men störning betyder inte alls "disorder" i det sammanhanget du visar oss. "Störning" betyder, faktiskt, "Interruption", "disruption" eller "disturbance" (osv). Man skulle kunna säga att Aspergers är en störning i sammanhanget "Aspergers is a disruption when it comes to day-to-day life", annars är det totalt fel att beskriver det så. Då säger man att Aspergers är en sjukdom. Detta säger man pga. att "Sjukdom" betyder "ailment", "disease", "illness" och... "disorder"!

Or to put it another way for those who don't speak Swedish, sjukdom means illness, sickness, disease, malady, disorder, complaint, ailment or affliction.

http://www.ord.se/oversattning/engelska ... m&l=SVEENG

Störning also means disorder but is a harsher word that is more closely linked to derangement and severe mental disturbance than Asperger's.

http://www.ord.se/oversattning/engelska ... g&l=SVEENG

I know this for a fact because I asked my daughter's professional translator at a meeting with habilitering (hospital department specialised in dealing with children with Asperger's) because all of the documents I have regarding her assessment, diagnosis, special educational needs etc use the word sjukdom.



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10 Nov 2010, 2:30 am

MotherKnowsBest wrote:
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The word you have taken offense to in the article, 'sjukdom' doesn't just translate into 'disease'. According to my dictionary it also translates to 'disorder'.


Both Wikipedia, at least one online translator and me myself (Who is, in all honesty, very good at Swedish) translates "sjukdom" to "disease", and the only other possible meaning is sickness/illness. Plus, "disorder" is (I know this for a fact, trust me on this one) is "störning".


Okej, säg så då, men störning betyder inte alls "disorder" i det sammanhanget du visar oss. "Störning" betyder, faktiskt, "Interruption", "disruption" eller "disturbance" (osv). Man skulle kunna säga att Aspergers är en störning i sammanhanget "Aspergers is a disruption when it comes to day-to-day life", annars är det totalt fel att beskriver det så. Då säger man att Aspergers är en sjukdom. Detta säger man pga. att "Sjukdom" betyder "ailment", "disease", "illness" och... "disorder"!

Or to put it another way for those who don't speak Swedish, sjukdom means illness, sickness, disease, malady, disorder, complaint, ailment or affliction.

http://www.ord.se/oversattning/engelska ... m&l=SVEENG

Störning also means disorder but is a harsher word that is more closely linked to derangement and severe mental disturbance than Asperger's.

http://www.ord.se/oversattning/engelska ... g&l=SVEENG

I know this for a fact because I asked my daughter's professional translator at a meeting with habilitering (hospital department specialised in dealing with children with Asperger's) because all of the documents I have regarding her assessment, diagnosis, special educational needs etc use the word sjukdom.


Jaha, men varför är AS en neurologisk störning om det inte är en störning?