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forresthouse
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17 Nov 2010, 8:20 pm

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Sometime, I feel lot of frustration toward some people for many reasons
that all concern the way they think.

Lot of people do not take time to think by evaluating and finding a reasonable way, they think with their emotions without correctly considering the outcome of their actions. They often omit to consider the possibility that they could be wrong.

Lot of people do not want to find the truth, they want to be right, they want to impose their ideas even though it could be wrong... or is it that they neglect the possibility to be wrong or they feel it's wrong but they can't admit it, even to themselves.

Most of humans manipulate the reality to make themselves look better. They lie to themself to feel better. Because of this, those who are honest aren't believed as we assume they are making themself appearing better.

Lot of people (not everyone) do not look for a ways for everyone around to be happy. They look like they do but they actually think for themselves. Lot of powerful people mostly have in mind their personal interrest, they contantly look for more profits and they won't hesitate to cause trouble to those who get in their ways.

Lot of people always want more. Their needs are infinite as they don't understand the more they feed those needs the bigger they get, so they continuously look for more and they can't learn that as close as satisfaction might seem they'll never reach it, and they keep consumming.

I MUST be wrong, otherwise how would I be the only one who think that way? Or perhaps I'm right and all the others are wrong... That'd be unlikely...but maybe...

People aren't all bad but I keep thinking if they were to lose a bit of their overconfidence, a bit of their egoism and if they instead became more thoughful and more honest, would all the world be better?

If you disagree with some points, say it, I absolutely don't mind. It don't want to be the right anwser's owner, I want to find the truth.
(If some people are offended, let me know as well)

I posted this some month ago, now, I'd like to have more opinions


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18 Nov 2010, 7:38 am

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Sometime, I feel lot of frustration toward some people for many reasons that all concern the way they think.

All of that always breaks down to ego, fear, pride and/or ignorance all around, and including within ourselves.

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Lot of people do not take time to think ...

Many of us think there is no great reason or need to do so.

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... they think with their emotions ...

A sense of security (fear of losing something we have or of not getting something we want or need) is at work there ...

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... without correctly considering the outcome of their actions.

Life is a learning experience.

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They often omit to consider the possibility they could be wrong.

Ego, fear, pride and/or ignorance.

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Lot of people do not want to find the truth, they want to be right, they want to impose their ideas even though it could be wrong...

Ego, fear, pride and/or ignorance.

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... or is it that they neglect the possibility to be wrong or they feel it's wrong but they can't admit it, even to themselves.

It is impossible to abandon a present thought, belief or philosophy without having something to replace it, and many things can stand in the way of looking for or considering something else.

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Most of humans manipulate the reality to make themselves look better. They lie to themself to feel better.

We each do whatever we believe we must in order to cope.

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People aren't all bad but I keep thinking if they were to lose a bit of their overconfidence, a bit of their egoism and if they instead became more thoughtful and more honest, would all the world be better?

Certainly, and that can happen one-at-a-time when human beings come to a point of need and are willing and able to see self-reliance for what it actually is: insufficient.


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20 Nov 2010, 1:23 pm

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Sometime, I feel lot of frustration toward some people for many reasons
that all concern the way they think.

-you can't really change that, sorry, but you can have patience with it. I know how you feel about it though, I am CONSTANTLY frustrated with my younger sister and the way she thinks.
Yet, I cannot change it...only endure it

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Lot of people do not want to find the truth, they want to be right, they want to impose their ideas even though it could be wrong... or is it that they neglect the possibility to be wrong or they feel it's wrong but they can't admit it, even to themselves.

-Well, heres what I think. Especially with religion, everybody is going to have a little piece of rightness, they know a little true. I don't think there is a lot of religions that try to teach evil. Yet, people are reluctant to receive truth because they have been taught this their whole life. That is why when we are trying to teach our truth (our religion) we don't try and force it down peoples throats. We present what we have, and if they want to learn more, they will have the resources to learn more. I think that is with anything in life. You need to present your ideas, and let them decide if it is right or wrong. Just say, this is what I think, you are free to think your way, but if you want to learn why I think this way, I will totally tell you. Yes, everybody wants to be right, I even feel that sometimes, but we are all trying to learn how to have good discussions. (some are just better at it)

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Lot of people (not everyone) do not look for a ways for everyone around to be happy. They look like they do but they actually think for themselves. Lot of powerful people mostly have in mind their personal interrest, they contantly look for more profits and they won't hesitate to cause trouble to those who get in their ways.

-that is human nature to be self-serving. If you are annoyed by it, then be the person who tries that. Be the person that tries to make everyone happy. Who knows maybe your actions could affect someone else

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Lot of people always want more. Their needs are infinite as they don't understand the more they feed those needs the bigger they get, so they continuously look for more and they can't learn that as close as satisfaction might seem they'll never reach it, and they keep consumming.

-I am assuming that you are talking about addictions to buying, eating, whatever, it sounds like an addiction. Oh, and whatever an addiction is (whether it is drugs or porn) it has the same effect on a person.
I have an article that I read about that the other day, it is really interesting, try reading it
http://www.salvomag.com/new/articles/sa ... ilton.phpI

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I MUST be wrong, otherwise how would I be the only one who think that way? Or perhaps I'm right and all the others are wrong... That'd be unlikely...but maybe...

No, the thing I have found with the internet is that there are MANY ideas, and you are almost always going to find someone who agrees with you. Whether you are right, IDK, that is why you have to keep on reading, learning, and researching... to find the answers.

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People aren't all bad but I keep thinking if they were to lose a bit of their overconfidence, a bit of their egoism and if they instead became more thoughful and more honest, would all the world be better?

-Yes, they would be better. I don't think everyone is trying to be that way. Some really want to be that way (that # is few), some don't care (that is a big #) some don't know they are that way (that is a medium #) and some are trying to fix their ways (that is a small #).

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(If some people are offended, let me know as well)

Uh! I am offended! (Jk, :P)



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20 Nov 2010, 3:40 pm

forresthouse wrote:
[Lot of people do not take time to think by evaluating and finding a reasonable way, they think with their emotions without correctly considering the outcome of their actions. They often omit to consider the possibility that they could be wrong.]


That is true. (Asperger's Syndrome does not exempt anyone from doing this. There is a lot of hot-headed emotionality on this site.) It is also true that the very same people calmly and unemotionally think out reasonable ways of doing things that take outcomes into account. How is this possible? Because the same person is quite capable of thinking different ways in different situations. A person who is very calm and rational in one situation about one subject can be very emotional and irrational in another situation and about a different subject. The term "hot button issues" refers to this duality of people. It is quite common for people to be calm and rational about literally everything except their own "hot button issue" whatever that may be. And when that issue comes up, they lose all perspective.



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Lot of people do not want to find the truth, they want to be right, they want to impose their ideas even though it could be wrong... or is it that they neglect the possibility to be wrong or they feel it's wrong but they can't admit it, even to themselves.


All that and more. There is not just one uniform way of thinking, even for one person.

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Most of humans manipulate the reality to make themselves look better. They lie to themself to feel better.


Yes. In fact, the ability to do this is a human psychological survival tactic. The inability to do it is linked with depression.

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Because of this, those who are honest aren't believed as we assume they are making themself appearing better.


Yes. Sometimes there is a feeling of "too good to be true" that makes people suspicious.

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Lot of people (not everyone) do not look for a ways for everyone around to be happy. They look like they do but they actually think for themselves. Lot of powerful people mostly have in mind their personal interrest, they contantly look for more profits and they won't hesitate to cause trouble to those who get in their ways.


I would expand that to include everyone. I don't think there is anyone who actually looks for ways for everyone to be happy. Not even the Dalai Lama. There are plenty of people I decidedly don't want to be happy- since their happiness is contingent on my misery or enslavement.

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Lot of people always want more. Their needs are infinite as they don't understand the more they feed those needs the bigger they get, so they continuously look for more and they can't learn that as close as satisfaction might seem they'll never reach it, and they keep consumming.


That is a problem. Buddhism does try to adress it, not that I'm a Buddhist.

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I MUST be wrong, otherwise how would I be the only one who think that way? Or perhaps I'm right and all the others are wrong... That'd be unlikely...but maybe...


You can be both right and wrong simultaneously...right about some things some of the time and wrong about other things at other times.

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People aren't all bad but I keep thinking if they were to lose a bit of their overconfidence, a bit of their egoism and if they instead became more thoughful and more honest, would all the world be better?


Yes it would. But I don't think that honesty is something that trumps every other virtue. I think that compassion is far more important.