It seems to me that most hot women in the US are stuck up.

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I've read some of the topics posted on this part of the site and it seems that most hot women in the US are stuck up, have bad attitudes, are snobby, mostly look for the most handsome but empty headed guy etc..... I guess you understand what I'm trying to say. Another thing I've seen on the forums is that some aspies long for hot women and some posters reply, saying average looking guys with aspergers cannot get those hot women and should move on to something else. When I read all that, I wanted to post that they shouldn't give up so easily that if they wanted they could really get those women. But then I realized that I don't live in America, I live somewhere else and that women are different depending on the continent/country where you live.
I want to mention that I live in Europe and I don't want to generalize because that would be wrong, but the super hot girls that I know personally or that I've encountered in my country are actually very nice to everyone, even nerds or any other kind of people. I also know some hot girls that actually date ugly guys. This doesn't only apply to women but also to men, most people that I encounter are usually nice and not stuck up. But I digress, Like I said, women here actually seem to be smart and not only go for looks but mostly for personality and other stuff, they actually go for regular kind of guys.

I guess what I want to say is, obviously this is an American site so most posters here are from The US but there are also posters from other countries where life might be completely different and where people behave differently so I wouldn't generalize to much and say all persons are the same.
I also want to mention that I'm not discriminating US girls or citizens in general, I'm not someone who discriminates people. It's just a feeling that I had, after all I don't live in the US so I don't know everything about people that live there, and I know that not all people in the US are the same.

Last edited by kruger4 on 01 Dec 2010, 8:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well, as a general rule, people in the US are snooty. I can't compare them to the rest of the world, but compared to each other, people here are snooty. Male, female, attractive, not, doesn't matter. A good many people suffer from it. Attractive females are the worst offenders, but the difference between snooty attractive females and snooty not-as-attractive females isn't as stratified as people make it seem as far as quantity goes. Attractive guys are just as bad as the girls are; the main difference is that girls are more passive aggressive, so it looks worse than when guys do it. We are an arrogant country because we think we are the greatest country in the history of the world...every country thinks that to some degree. So imagine how the people would act, and you get the basic idea.

I like that reply, I live in Belgium and most people here are indifferent about the country, they don't hate it, they just don't really care about the monarchy and about being Belgian all that much. The same applies to me, I actually like the country but I don't really care what it accomplishes in the long run. I don't know if it has a lot to do with people here being down to earth but it might be one of the reasons.

Oh yah, Americans think they are all unique snowflakes. Reality is exactly the opposite:

http://www.gameshot.org/?id=2079

Most attractive women are REALLY hard to interact with. They feel entitled to an easy life where they don't have to work. Instead they seek a rich handsome fellow willing to let her spend his money. This really flows both ways. These women have once been agreeable young girls. They've turned into what they've turned into largely because the idiot men who worshiped the ground they walked on, and lied to them, and lavished them with perks and gifts just because she was pretty, and often used them, and despite their amazing looks ended up cheating on them with another woman. This changes a person after a while and they first become more stuck-up and later more jaded and cynical. It is sad when you think about it.

Well, as a general rule, the snootiest people are the people that feel they have the most to lose, a.k.a. people in positions of power, real or imagined. Since perception is reality, the people that think highly of themselves are the snootiest. America is the most powerful, influential country in the world. Maybe we are not the greatest, because I don't know of a universal set of standards for greatness. But there is no denying our stranglehold on world affairs...and leaders of any country in any time are reflective of the people...after all, where do they get their REAL power from? Just as a girlfriend or boyfriend has as much power as you give them, so the attitudes of selfish, ignorant people will manifest itself in selfish, ignorant leaders. If I wanted to move to another country, I would look at their government leaders, and figure out the rest from there. Kind of how dogs take after their owners.

Now, take into account the obsession with beauty in this country, mainly that of female beauty. The Law of Scarcity is very relevant here.

And I thank Allah every day that I finally grew out of that. Never again.

But why???!

Imagine if no one tried to take advantage of our fellow humans, and no one ever tried to deny other's desires, or exert power over them. People would never lose their youthful naiveté and the world would be a much better place.

Maybe we'll have that in a 1000 years. But not any time soon.

seconded.

anyway, to the OP: over many years i have attended school with, associated with and worked with immigrant people from all over the world. including both european AND american women. canada has a hugely immigrant population from all over the world.

i am going to take a huge leap here and assume that people don't suddenly change as soon as they get off the plane, and... my impressions are that people are people. there is no vastly cultural difference in being "stuck up". both men and women who find themselves extremely attractive are pretty intolerable, regardless of which country they come from.

I noticed that - I never knew if it's just a case of sour grapes or if there's some truth in it... I've lived in 4 European countries by now and never saw anything similar. Most good looking women will not be so obsessed with looks in a partner and they don't want a "meal ticket" - most of us were raised wanting independence, few would be eager to give up their social and professional life for a wealthy husband.

I should add that the few American women I've met were nothing like that either, so the sour grapes thing might be the truth here...

I think this captures most everything relevant about the topic. Obsession is the right word, because physical beauty goes SUCH a long way here. Shortcomings in other areas are so heavily discounted that they end up not existing, essentially. I really don't know why this is.

Maybe it's because there are two things that every American fundamentally lacks: history and culture. This country is still a huge and incoherent experiment in which we kind of just make things up as we go along -- everything is always changing, shifting. This leads to a sort of mass identity crisis, I think. And we solve it by latching onto something very obvious and about the only thing we all agree upon: appearance. I wonder if that makes sense to anyone else?

I've spent a lot of time in Italy, where acquaintances there have introduced me to some very, very attractive Italian women. They're typically open and friendly and non-judgmental, it seems to me. It's actually a bit off-putting to meet beautiful women who don't come across as self-obsessed(!) I've had conversations (some in bad English and some in even worse Italian) in which I had this constant thought of, "What's this girl's angle? She's way too attractive to be talking to me." The fact was, there was no angle. They were simply open and receptive to meeting someone new and weren't at all hung up on making sure they were being worshipped.

It could be done, but, there's only one way changes like that can ever occur - shifts in fundamental pivots/axioms of which human behaviors are fueled. The lack of need to create hunter-killer alphas would do a lot for us, especially if we got good enough with our technology that ice ages and anything else that could have wipes out still wouldn't bring us back to BC cultural necessities - the gene pool would likely start shifting.

As of right now though it seems like the most competitive cultures are the ones that have the most schizophrenia at the top in regard to looks, money, etc.. Then again, lol, how else would we come up with the kind of technological elevation to perhaps unbind us from hereditary faults and weakness, make things like the whole alpha to omega spectrum disappear? I don't think trying to police these habits via cultural movement or top down enforcement/pressure would ever really do much. We might be able to decouple these traits from success but, again, we'd need to decouple permanent bindings to heredity to get ourselves there.

it's a sexist goal to expect girls to agreeable but encouraging boys to be brash and outspoken. yes, it would be wonderful if both sexes were nicer to humankind, but nobody EVER refers to young men as "agreeable young boys".

That's strictly cultural - very Anglo-Saxon in my experience, apologies for the generalisation. You'll find something extremely different in Sweden for instance and not only there. I've seen a few American or British men called out as savages in Scandinavia, due to their more aggressive or competitive behaviour.

Edited to add: I've also met quite a few American and British men who told me they only live in Sweden because women as hot as the Swedes would never give them a chance back home - as I said, I've never figured if that was true or not

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yes, my comment may only apply to the primarily english-speaking world. but women have quite an equal position in sweden right? so it makes sense that there would be similar expectations for both girls and boys as children.

Unfortunately we're too busy beating the feelings out of young boys, that type of behavior is usually punished something awful.

it would definitely be a good cultural shift to have men free to embrance their sensitivity and emotions.