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09 Dec 2010, 3:21 pm

I've recently noticed some strange things about me which *may* be unrelated to Asperger's and I would like to know what's causing them.
So, here are those things:
- I often get an urge to scream, run around, fall on the floor and rotate around, jump, say stupid things and laugh (I usually laugh at what I'm saying while doing this) and make ret*d facial expressions changing every 3 seconds. I *can* hold it, but it's often hard to, so I start doing it to *some extent* hoping that other people will take it as a joke. (They usually don't, I get called a weirdo)

-Often, everything feels unreal to me. When I focus on this fact I often get lots of anxiety and my mind goes blank and in some strange loop, and it feels as if my consciousness is fading, till I tell myself to stop. This is usually accompanied by a big level of anxiety.

-I daydream virtually all the time, even in class. I usually read the notes (I usually daydream, but not to such a huge extent while taking notes also) afterward, which keeps me from failing. In other words, while everyone is listening in class, I find myself looking around or daydreaming.

-I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.

-It's hard for me to stop laughing, I can laugh on something I think is funny in class when everybody else stopped. This can last for 10-30 minutes straight.

Thanks in advance for your help.



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09 Dec 2010, 4:12 pm

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- I often get an urge to scream, run around, fall on the floor and rotate around, jump, say stupid things and laugh (I usually laugh at what I'm saying while doing this) and make ret*d facial expressions changing every 3 seconds. I *can* hold it, but it's often hard to, so I start doing it to *some extent* hoping that other people will take it as a joke. (They usually don't, I get called a weirdo)


Maybe stimming/sensory-seeking behaviors? I can relate to the occasional, exaggerated facial expressions, but it may be either a sensory thing or just a tic. I'm not certain, even though I experience the same thing.

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Often, everything feels unreal to me. When I focus on this fact I often get lots of anxiety and my mind goes blank and in some strange loop, and it feels as if my consciousness is fading, till I tell myself to stop. This is usually accompanied by a big level of anxiety.


I get this, too. I get in a loop of philosophical thoughts, and this may be, in a sense, AS-related, due to the tendency for those with AS to 'perseverate' on ideas.

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I daydream virtually all the time, even in class. I usually read the notes (I usually daydream, but not to such a huge extent while taking notes also) afterward, which keeps me from failing. In other words, while everyone is listening in class, I find myself looking around or daydreaming.


Maybe. I know many with 'ADD' do this.

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I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


That's certainly a social issue, but a common one.

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It's hard for me to stop laughing, I can laugh on something I think is funny in class when everybody else stopped. This can last for 10-30 minutes straight.


'Perseveration' again.



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09 Dec 2010, 4:39 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
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- I often get an urge to scream, run around, fall on the floor and rotate around, jump, say stupid things and laugh (I usually laugh at what I'm saying while doing this) and make ret*d facial expressions changing every 3 seconds. I *can* hold it, but it's often hard to, so I start doing it to *some extent* hoping that other people will take it as a joke. (They usually don't, I get called a weirdo)


Maybe stimming/sensory-seeking behaviors? I can relate to the occasional, exaggerated facial expressions, but it may be either a sensory thing or just a tic. I'm not certain, even though I experience the same thing.

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Often, everything feels unreal to me. When I focus on this fact I often get lots of anxiety and my mind goes blank and in some strange loop, and it feels as if my consciousness is fading, till I tell myself to stop. This is usually accompanied by a big level of anxiety.


I get this, too. I get in a loop of philosophical thoughts, and this may be, in a sense, AS-related, due to the tendency for those with AS to 'perseverate' on ideas.

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I daydream virtually all the time, even in class. I usually read the notes (I usually daydream, but not to such a huge extent while taking notes also) afterward, which keeps me from failing. In other words, while everyone is listening in class, I find myself looking around or daydreaming.


Maybe. I know many with 'ADD' do this.

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I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


That's certainly a social issue, but a common one.

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It's hard for me to stop laughing, I can laugh on something I think is funny in class when everybody else stopped. This can last for 10-30 minutes straight.


'Perseveration' again.


This helped, thanks. I looked up what stimming is, and it seems exactly what I do. I also clap, run in circles etc. - just what most of the stimming people do. I'm pretty sure this isn't a tic, since I vary things I do during this strange behavior. It can vary from hand flapping to being on the floor and turning around.



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09 Dec 2010, 5:28 pm

If it helps, here's my comments:

EmaN wrote:
- I often get an urge to scream, run around, fall on the floor and rotate around, jump, say stupid things and laugh (I usually laugh at what I'm saying while doing this) and make ret*d facial expressions changing every 3 seconds. I *can* hold it, but it's often hard to, so I start doing it to *some extent* hoping that other people will take it as a joke. (They usually don't, I get called a weirdo)


I haven't really got that. But my guess would be something AD(H)D related.
EDIT: Oh right! Sorry... It could very well be sensory issues too, but it depends,
Is it something you just HAVE to do?
Is it something you feel you need to do?
Is it something you get upset if you can't do?
Does it feel like it's to burn energy?
Is it something that makes you happy to do?
Is it something you do when you're alone? (If so, more than normally, less than normally, or the same?)

These questions are that you could ask yourself, to try figure out what it is.

EmaN wrote:
-Often, everything feels unreal to me. When I focus on this fact I often get lots of anxiety and my mind goes blank and in some strange loop, and it feels as if my consciousness is fading, till I tell myself to stop. This is usually accompanied by a big level of anxiety.


I get this too, very often! 8O
It's weird, and you have this strange dreamy feeling. Can't explain why though... I guess it could be AS(D) related.

EmaN wrote:
-I daydream virtually all the time, even in class. I usually read the notes (I usually daydream, but not to such a huge extent while taking notes also) afterward, which keeps me from failing. In other words, while everyone is listening in class, I find myself looking around or daydreaming.


I can do this sometimes too. But far from "all the time". Again I would guess AD(H)D.

EmaN wrote:
-I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


Is it even possible to speak with the oppesite sex? 8O :P
As you can probably tell from that line, I have the same issues. It ended with me not being sexually attracted anymore, until just recently!

EmaN wrote:
-It's hard for me to stop laughing, I can laugh on something I think is funny in class when everybody else stopped. This can last for 10-30 minutes straight.


Okay, I'm good at laughing, and I often laugh at wrong times or too short/long, but 10-30 minutes? 8O
There's no way I could hold it that long. BUT, if I come to think of what made me laugh in first place, after a break (which could be 10 minutes), I can break out in full laughter again (People can give you some strange looks when this happens!).



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09 Dec 2010, 5:51 pm

TheSpecialKid wrote:
If it helps, here's my comments:

EmaN wrote:
- I often get an urge to scream, run around, fall on the floor and rotate around, jump, say stupid things and laugh (I usually laugh at what I'm saying while doing this) and make ret*d facial expressions changing every 3 seconds. I *can* hold it, but it's often hard to, so I start doing it to *some extent* hoping that other people will take it as a joke. (They usually don't, I get called a weirdo)


I haven't really got that. But my guess would be something AD(H)D related.
EDIT: Oh right! Sorry... It could very well be sensory issues too, but it depends,
Is it something you just HAVE to do?
Is it something you feel you need to do?
Is it something you get upset if you can't do?
Does it feel like it's to burn energy?
Is it something that makes you happy to do?
Is it something you do when you're alone? (If so, more than normally, less than normally, or the same?)

These questions are that you could ask yourself, to try figure out what it is.

EmaN wrote:
-Often, everything feels unreal to me. When I focus on this fact I often get lots of anxiety and my mind goes blank and in some strange loop, and it feels as if my consciousness is fading, till I tell myself to stop. This is usually accompanied by a big level of anxiety.


I get this too, very often! 8O
It's weird, and you have this strange dreamy feeling. Can't explain why though... I guess it could be AS(D) related.

EmaN wrote:
-I daydream virtually all the time, even in class. I usually read the notes (I usually daydream, but not to such a huge extent while taking notes also) afterward, which keeps me from failing. In other words, while everyone is listening in class, I find myself looking around or daydreaming.


I can do this sometimes too. But far from "all the time". Again I would guess AD(H)D.

EmaN wrote:
-I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


Is it even possible to speak with the oppesite sex? 8O :P
As you can probably tell from that line, I have the same issues. It ended with me not being sexually attracted anymore, until just recently!

EmaN wrote:
-It's hard for me to stop laughing, I can laugh on something I think is funny in class when everybody else stopped. This can last for 10-30 minutes straight.


Okay, I'm good at laughing, and I often laugh at wrong times or too short/long, but 10-30 minutes? 8O
There's no way I could hold it that long. BUT, if I come to think of what made me laugh in first place, after a break (which could be 10 minutes), I can break out in full laughter again (People can give you some strange looks when this happens!).


Thanks for your reply.

Is it something you just HAVE to do? - Yes, well, it's VERY hard to hold it completelly
Is it something you feel you need to do? - Yes
Is it something you get upset if you can't do? - Yes
Does it feel like it's to burn energy? - How does the 'energy burning' feeling feel like 8O
Is it something that makes you happy to do? - Yes, because laughter is a part of this strange behavior (as well as hand clapping, running in circles, making various noises and/or screaming etc.)
Is it something you do when you're alone? - I usually do a 'socially adopted' version (making cat/dog like noises, fast-changing facial expressions etc.) of it when I'm not alone, but a full-burst version when alone.

I usually do it in the same time as screaming. I also say strange phrases when doing this, and laugh afterward. (Ex: Oh my god he stole my arm)



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09 Dec 2010, 11:39 pm

I have ADHD and at times I must run around, jump, clap and make animal noises. Sometimes I jump on my trampoline and throw and exercise ball in the air. I just really have to move otherwise I feel restless. I like those days vs. my inattentive days.

I daydream all the time. The world in my head is better.

I don't know about the anxiety thing. I don't get much anxiety. I focus on things an try to find connections or come up with wild ideas.

The laughing thing sounds like you don't understand your emotions. I just know I did that a lot when I was younger.


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10 Dec 2010, 4:22 pm

pensieve wrote:
The laughing thing sounds like you don't understand your emotions. I just know I did that a lot when I was younger.

That actually sounds very true. I can relate closely to this statement.

EmaN wrote:
Is it something you just HAVE to do? - Yes, well, it's VERY hard to hold it completelly
Is it something you feel you need to do? - Yes
Is it something you get upset if you can't do? - Yes
Does it feel like it's to burn energy? - How does the 'energy burning' feeling feel like Shocked
Is it something that makes you happy to do? - Yes, because laughter is a part of this strange behavior (as well as hand clapping, running in circles, making various noises and/or screaming etc.)
Is it something you do when you're alone? - I usually do a 'socially adopted' version (making cat/dog like noises, fast-changing facial expressions etc.) of it when I'm not alone, but a full-burst version when alone.

I usually do it in the same time as screaming. I also say strange phrases when doing this, and laugh afterward. (Ex: Oh my god he stole my arm)

Well, it's pretty hard to tell over the internet, and even else I'm no professional.

A couple of more question though:
Are you laughing about something unexplainable?
or
Are you laughing because of the hand-clapping and running in circles (read: having fun)

The strange phrases, are those typically quotes? (from movies, books, music, other people, etc.)


It is really hard to tell if it has most to do with ASD or AD(H)D.
An important question would probably be:
What do you think?
ASD or AD(H)D?



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10 Dec 2010, 7:24 pm

Things feeling unreal to you and your consciousness fading sound similar to dissociation.



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11 Dec 2010, 5:14 pm

TheSpecialKid wrote:
pensieve wrote:
The laughing thing sounds like you don't understand your emotions. I just know I did that a lot when I was younger.

That actually sounds very true. I can relate closely to this statement.

EmaN wrote:
Is it something you just HAVE to do? - Yes, well, it's VERY hard to hold it completelly
Is it something you feel you need to do? - Yes
Is it something you get upset if you can't do? - Yes
Does it feel like it's to burn energy? - How does the 'energy burning' feeling feel like Shocked
Is it something that makes you happy to do? - Yes, because laughter is a part of this strange behavior (as well as hand clapping, running in circles, making various noises and/or screaming etc.)
Is it something you do when you're alone? - I usually do a 'socially adopted' version (making cat/dog like noises, fast-changing facial expressions etc.) of it when I'm not alone, but a full-burst version when alone.

I usually do it in the same time as screaming. I also say strange phrases when doing this, and laugh afterward. (Ex: Oh my god he stole my arm)

Well, it's pretty hard to tell over the internet, and even else I'm no professional.

A couple of more question though:
Are you laughing about something unexplainable?
or
Are you laughing because of the hand-clapping and running in circles (read: having fun)

The strange phrases, are those typically quotes? (from movies, books, music, other people, etc.)


It is really hard to tell if it has most to do with ASD or AD(H)D.

An important question would probably be:
What do you think?
ASD or AD(H)D?


Laughing and noise making urge comes first and together. It's mostly a laugh without a normal cause, just like the noise making. The laugh CAN be fueled by what I'm doing, but usually a little. And it's also usually something between laughing and screaming.

The phrases are usually logically incorrect phrases. (Ex: Oh my god they stole thoughts)

I don't think it's related to ADHD, because ADHD usually changes behavior constantly, while this comes in some strange attacks.

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, but the hyperactive part faded a long time ago.

Oh, and for my entire life I had no feeling of 'identity'. Other people seem to have it from what I've read so far.



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11 Dec 2010, 6:15 pm

EmaN wrote:
-I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


Could you possibly be gay? :shrug:



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11 Dec 2010, 6:33 pm

Mootoo wrote:
EmaN wrote:
-I'm unable to talk with the opposite sex, because I simply don't know how to. Even if I wasn't shy, (Yes, I'm shy) I still wouldn't know what to talk about with girls. Virtually everyone in our class talks with the opposite sex for the sake of flirting etc., but I don't know how to. If the opposite sex members in our class shared interests with me or talked about things I'm used to, I would talk with them, but when it comes to flirting I'm useless.


Could you possibly be gay? :shrug:


No, I probably wouldn't ask this question if I was gay. It upsets me when I don't know what to talk to someone I love. Flirting etc. is high-level socializing which I'm useless at.
I once had a failed dating experience, though. I drew a picture which a girl wanted (picture of Marilyn Monroe, which took me hours to make) for her birthday and she kissed me. She seemed to be attracted to me. But I didn't talk to her afterward, which I found very strange also - I didn't know what to talk.