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14 Dec 2010, 8:12 pm

I've read a bunch of quotes attributed to her but don't really sympathize or care for most of them. I seen her website and it struck me as egocentric and self-indulgent, with not much content or anything to capture my interest or my heart.

Look at this I just copied across from her website: -

"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

"At the podium, the cast members humbly redirected the spotlight to Dr. Grandin herself, who attended the award ceremony with her mother[...]"

"**Also just announced! Dr. Temple Grandin—world-famous animal scientist and autism self-advocate—has been included in the 2010 TIME 100, the magazine's annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world!"


Fed up of hearing about her! Extremely narcissistic and not at all endearing; why on Earth is she so venerated in the autism community?



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14 Dec 2010, 8:37 pm

You not caring about who she is your own choice to make nobody is forcing you in liking her, but she is a well known person in the subject of autism.

Maybe you could look into her written literature or see the movie about her which was recently made to get a clearer image of her.

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14 Dec 2010, 8:39 pm

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Why should I care who she is? I've read a bunch of quotes attributed to her but don't really sympathize or care for most of them. I seen her website and it struck me as egocentric and self-indulgent, with not much content or anything to capture my interest or my heart.

Look at this I just copied across from her website: -

"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

"At the podium, the cast members humbly redirected the spotlight to Dr. Grandin herself, who attended the award ceremony with her mother[...]"

"**Also just announced! Dr. Temple Grandin—world-famous animal scientist and autism self-advocate—has been included in the 2010 TIME 100, the magazine's annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world!"


Fed up of hearing about her! Extremely narcissistic and not at all endearing; why on Earth is she so venerated in the autism community?


So what? She is successful. Why hold it against her? Are you telling us the you WOULDN'T capitalize on your life story if YOU had the chance?

Pfft. Get over yourself. You are ensconced in mediocrity just like the rest of us.


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14 Dec 2010, 8:58 pm

Well you see the way it works is that I just finished Tony Attwood's book on Asperger's. He quoted from her a LOT. After finding her website I had the impression described in the first post. That's all. I guess I made this thread so somebody could come along and educate me on why I should care who this all-pervasive character is. My current opinion is I couldn't care less.

At least Tony Attwood has met and worked with thousands of people with ASD, so he really knows a lot, and is in a great position to educate the public about ASD. TG on the other hand... meh.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:02 pm

I actually don't know who Temple Grandin is. I've never seen her, heard her, or read her books. She just doesn't interest me. Other then the spectrum thing, I don't think we have much in common. Thats probably why. I have no ill feelings towards her or her followers. Its just not my thing.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:08 pm

"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

I thought that title went to Albert Einstein.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:11 pm

Temple annoys me.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:13 pm

CranialRectosis wrote:
"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

I thought that title went to Albert Einstein.


The difference is that Einstein's autism is posthumous speculation, while Temple Grandin has actually been diagnosed.


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14 Dec 2010, 9:19 pm

She's a hypocryte. She needs to start advocating veganism/lab grown meat in addition to desigining human handling equiment. Or just shut up about loving cattle so much. Maybe she loves them on a plate. She also has a very curebish mindset. She's against stimming and says that autistics should be programing video games but not allowed to play them. That sounds very hypocryical. I personaly need video games to decompress.
I also personaly can't stand her becuase I am constantaly being compared to her. One of the reasons I stopped taking riding lessons is because my school phycologist thought I was basicaly her clone. If something worked for Temple, it would work for me. I recently accused my mother of sheltering me too much and compared her to Temple Grandin's mother who would force her to do things. My mother says I would hurt myself or other people if forced to do things. My mother was only trying to prevent World War 3.


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14 Dec 2010, 9:20 pm

I've read a few of Temple's books and I did like what she had to say in them. I've seen her in interviews and I don't think that she is full of herself or narcissistic, she just is. I even wonder if she had much to do with what is written on the webiste or if someone else is in charge of that for her.
She is accomplished and given how much she has had to overcome in her life, I think it is OK that she is recognized and acclaimed for what she has done and also for being an autism advocate.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:28 pm

She is an activist, speaking up about autism and trying to help changing the negative perception amongst the general population. Personally I admire her very much and I think she is very courageous.

I guess its always that way tho when you are a public person, as in life generally, we simply can't please everyone.

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I've read a bunch of quotes attributed to her but don't really sympathize or care for most of them. I seen her website and it struck me as egocentric and self-indulgent, with not much content or anything to capture my interest or my heart.

Look at this I just copied across from her website: -

"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

"At the podium, the cast members humbly redirected the spotlight to Dr. Grandin herself, who attended the award ceremony with her mother[...]"

"**Also just announced! Dr. Temple Grandin—world-famous animal scientist and autism self-advocate—has been included in the 2010 TIME 100, the magazine's annual list of the 100 most influential people in the world!"


Fed up of hearing about her! Extremely narcissistic and not at all endearing; why on Earth is she so venerated in the autism community?


She is definitely not self-indulgent nor narcisstic, do you actually know anything at all about her?

And it is another person who is in charge of her website.


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14 Dec 2010, 9:35 pm

I doubt she had much of any part at all in creating that website. The people in charge would rather you be influenced from all the quotes to buy her books.

I don't relate to temple grandin so don't much care for her either. She's still an important figure in advocacy, though.



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14 Dec 2010, 9:37 pm

Care or don't care.
I love her.
She says what I can't communicate and really gets me thinking.
I'm not sure if I would go as far as to say she is inspiring but I do enjoy reading her books and watching videos of her.

She doesn't come off as narcissistic at all.


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14 Dec 2010, 9:44 pm

CranialRectosis wrote:
"Temple Grandin, Ph.D., is the most accomplished and well-known adult with autism in the world."

I thought that title went to Albert Einstein.


Albert Einstein was never diagnosed with an ASD. Any one that suggests that he was autistic without serious caveats is over stating their case.


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14 Dec 2010, 10:21 pm

PunkyKat wrote:
She's a hypocryte. She needs to start advocating veganism/lab grown meat in addition to desigining human handling equiment. Or just shut up about loving cattle so much. Maybe she loves them on a plate. She also has a very curebish mindset. She's against stimming and says that autistics should be programing video games but not allowed to play them. That sounds very hypocryical. I personaly need video games to decompress.
I also personaly can't stand her becuase I am constantaly being compared to her. One of the reasons I stopped taking riding lessons is because my school phycologist thought I was basicaly her clone. If something worked for Temple, it would work for me. I recently accused my mother of sheltering me too much and compared her to Temple Grandin's mother who would force her to do things. My mother says I would hurt myself or other people if forced to do things. My mother was only trying to prevent World War 3.


Thank you. This is exactly why she annoys me.

She advocates veganism, but is responsible for helping the beef industry make things more "comfortable" for the cattle before they are slaughtered. Absolute hypocrite.



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14 Dec 2010, 10:24 pm

I've read Temple Grandin's books but it was a long time ago. I remember admiring her for her ability to find ways to improve herself all the time.

But I think the complaint here is with how she is presented and perceived by others. She is not the one who put herself on a pedestal to be admired, she only told her story. I think that the problem is the point of view of the general public, where there is an element of "look at the poor autistic lady who made such a success of herself," as if autistics should be incapable of doing anything at all, let alone become acclaimed professors of animal science.