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08 Jan 2011, 1:37 pm

You are both right. It is quite controlled, but at the moment it is still more or less an open platform. Step by step, the government is changing that for the wore.

Thanks for the info about who actually owns it by the way.


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09 Jan 2011, 9:36 am

I heard that Google was started with "seed money" from a CIA front operation. I believe this was confirmed (at least, so far as the money trail...you are free to dismiss the funding source as a CIA front operation if you wish), but it makes perfect sense.

Google has done more than any other entity in the world to destroy any vestige of individual privacy and their systems are dedicated more to data mining and pattern matching than just being a "search engine." That alone makes them a valued CIA asset because the Constitution impedes the CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, etc. from digging into your life without a warrant but those restrictions DO NOT apply to businesses. So long as Google is willing to sell their findings to anyone who wants to buy it, there are no constitutional restrictions on the CIA using data mined by Google to profile your life.

Add in how Google is actively filtering out results so that search results go to preferred vendors and some results are just flat out repressed, and they can also be a tool to restrict free speech on the Internet via corporate policy and not governmental degree...even if in the background they are one and the same.



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09 Jan 2011, 9:48 am

zer0netgain wrote:
I heard that Google was started with "seed money" from a CIA front operation. I believe this was confirmed (at least, so far as the money trail...you are free to dismiss the funding source as a CIA front operation if you wish), but it makes perfect sense.

Google has done more than any other entity in the world to destroy any vestige of individual privacy and their systems are dedicated more to data mining and pattern matching than just being a "search engine." That alone makes them a valued CIA asset because the Constitution impedes the CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, etc. from digging into your life without a warrant but those restrictions DO NOT apply to businesses. So long as Google is willing to sell their findings to anyone who wants to buy it, there are no constitutional restrictions on the CIA using data mined by Google to profile your life.

Add in how Google is actively filtering out results so that search results go to preferred vendors and some results are just flat out repressed, and they can also be a tool to restrict free speech on the Internet via corporate policy and not governmental degree...even if in the background they are one and the same.


i think you are likely to be right you know.

google is more or less owned by the Rothschilds. The same family which pretty much runs all the major meida outlets and corporations. It is facism what they have created in my opinion.


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09 Jan 2011, 11:17 am

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You can trace those against the big media companies. You'll note that there is a Rothschild invested in FOX for instance. There is a Rothschild involved in the first on that list, Fidelity. And the Rothschilds have an agreement with Blackrock. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BlackRock ... a086126235

Google/Youtube is well controlled.


That's right. Blame it on the Jews.

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09 Jan 2011, 12:10 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
You can trace those against the big media companies. You'll note that there is a Rothschild invested in FOX for instance. There is a Rothschild involved in the first on that list, Fidelity. And the Rothschilds have an agreement with Blackrock. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BlackRock ... a086126235

Google/Youtube is well controlled.


That's right. Blame it on the Jews.

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In all honestly it is very little to do with the Jews now. The whole Jew thing is often just a front for hiding the Illuminati's Lucifarian religion (note that satan and lucifer are technically two different beings. If they are really being that is)


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10 Jan 2011, 9:44 am

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That's right. Blame it on the Jews.


There are two type of Jews and two different philosophies.

Many Jews are focused on the spiritual life of the Jews. They aren't the problem.

There are other Jews who subscribe to the idea of Jewish domination of the world. These people are 100% secular...nothing spiritual about their views or methodologies.

It'd be akin to Americans who believe our way of life is best for everyone, but one group believes in letting others choose to be like us if they want and others believing in forcing others to convert their societies to be like us.



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10 Jan 2011, 10:00 am

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... Americans who believe our way of life is best for everyone, but one group believes in letting others choose to be like us if they want and others believing in forcing others to convert their societies to be like us.

... as in alleged "democracy" at the point of a gun:

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From: "President Declares 'Freedom at War with Fear'"
Office of the Press Secretary, September 20, 2001
Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
United States Capitol, Washington, D.C., 9:00 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:
... Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make: Either you are with us [who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom (see below)], or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.)
... This is not, however, just America's fight. And what is at stake is not just America's freedom. This is the world's fight. This is civilization's fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom.
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Thank you. (Applause.)
END 9:41 P.M. EDT
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10 Jan 2011, 10:13 am

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There are other Jews who subscribe to the idea of Jewish domination of the world. These people are 100% secular...nothing spiritual about their views or methodologies.

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Most Jews are focused on survival. And given recent history, they are quite logical to be so focused. There are very few Jews, a small minority of a small minority who are playing Power Games. In the long run such games are futile and banal.

You are an anti-semite so you have a bent and false view of Jews.

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11 Jan 2011, 12:21 am

You should take a look at those videos.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRSr1MnFuk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ-nkYr46w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hBDXB6cifo[/youtube]



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11 Jan 2011, 7:29 am

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You should take a look at those videos.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRSr1MnFuk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ-nkYr46w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hBDXB6cifo[/youtube]


I wonder if those are the same bombs and explosive charges that people heard from the Murrah Building in OKC back in 1995. Everytime there is a terrorist attack, the Wing Dings roll out the every present Reichstag Theory --- you know, it is a government plot, it is an Illuminati plot, it is a Jewish plot.

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11 Jan 2011, 8:23 am

ruveyn wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
There are other Jews who subscribe to the idea of Jewish domination of the world. These people are 100% secular...nothing spiritual about their views or methodologies.

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Most Jews are focused on survival. And given recent history, they are quite logical to be so focused. There are very few Jews, a small minority of a small minority who are playing Power Games. In the long run such games are futile and banal.

You are an anti-semite so you have a bent and false view of Jews.

ruveyn


Acknowledging a truth is not anti-Semitic. These people exist. How many of them is not known, but they certainly do not represent all Jews in the world.



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11 Jan 2011, 9:44 am

I am having a think about that is in those videos. I am going to link those videos to a few friends of mines who are lot more knowledgeable than me and who I know examine both sides of the evidence very carefully.

I noticed a couple assumptions though. It seems to assume that all the conspiracy theories believe that the steel melted. It also seems to assume that the equipment used, IF it was used, would have been "standard" and have remains found. Lets say it was used for one second. If it was used, the precaution would be taken to to make a more 'light weight' version of all the components. I do remember looking at how the design of a thermite and thermate box can make the sound a lot quieter. Also have to note that IF explosives were used at the top and muffled, the further down it gets, the less explosive force which would need to bring the next floor down due to force of the floors above "helping" to collapse the buildings.

These are my own educated guesses about each aspect. I will really look the details more closely and get back you you's.


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11 Jan 2011, 3:09 pm

zer0netgain wrote:

Acknowledging a truth is not anti-Semitic. These people exist. How many of them is not known, but they certainly do not represent all Jews in the world.


And the Power Trippers are not typical of the Jewish population, most of who are law abiding citizens with no great power and wealth. In the U.S. most Jews are hopelessly Middle Class.

The main difference between them and the rest of the American population is that they do not worship the idols that most Americans worship.

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