08 Feb 2011, 12:40 pm
08 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm
08 Feb 2011, 3:43 pm
ToughDiamond wrote:
Could be.......another thing I notice is, I find it incredibly difficult to just drop a thought, especially if I don't feel I've chewed it over pretty much to completion. Naturally that makes it hard to follow anything "linear" such as books and films, and it also seems to be a part of my "talking past the point" problem - when I can't stop talking, it's because I've got a thought and I can't drop it (i.e. stop talking about it) until I've really made it "clear" (though I'm more clarifying it in my own mind than for the listener). Also the apparently poor "working memory" of many of us - perhaps the data isn't lost, but is just hard to switch back to if an interfering idea happens to grab our attention at the wrong time. Though that doesn't explain why we're able to switch our focus onto the interfering thoiught but not back again. When I get that memory problem, the tangent I've flown off at (and failed to return from) has usually seemed at first to be just a brief detour - the brain seems to see the new thought as strongly related to the main issue, but then it "expands" the new thought until it's too far away from the original concept. You'd think I'd be adept at nipping such thoughts in the bud by now, but once it's there, I just find myself exploring it to the full. Again, the prime directive seems to be that dropping the thought, however insignificant or distracting it may be, just isn't allowed.
Yes, this is SO what I do! That´s a big problem I have with lectures, or informative programs; my mind often gets distracted by a passing detail, and suddenly my mind is going somewhere else, with no idea what the person talking is actually saying. This happens with films too, and suddenly I miss the plot. Luckily, nowadays I watch dvds mainly, so I can rewind as much as I want....and often I need to do a lot of rewinding.....
Another problem I have is I guess what´s called a central coherence difficulty. Basically, I can watch something or read something, but not notice how things in the story interconnect with each other- basically, making it difficult to see how things fit together to make a plot. (I wonder if that´s why so many of us feel like we´re "forgetting" the information? Maybe we see it as a lot of separate details that are hard to keep straight, rather than one interconnected whole?) Funny enough, when I first read the AS literature, I didn´t think I had this problem at all! ("Intense preoccupation with Parts of Objects"). But, now that I can watch the same dvds over and over again, I realize how much I actually miss how things connect together.....sometimes I only ever realize it the 4th, 5th, or 10th time I´ve watched something!
08 Feb 2011, 4:06 pm
ToughDiamond wrote:
Could be.......another thing I notice is, I find it incredibly difficult to just drop a thought, especially if I don't feel I've chewed it over pretty much to completion. Naturally that makes it hard to follow anything "linear" such as books and films, and it also seems to be a part of my "talking past the point" problem - when I can't stop talking, it's because I've got a thought and I can't drop it (i.e. stop talking about it) until I've really made it "clear" (though I'm more clarifying it in my own mind than for the listener). Also the apparently poor "working memory" of many of us - perhaps the data isn't lost, but is just hard to switch back to if an interfering idea happens to grab our attention at the wrong time. Though that doesn't explain why we're able to switch our focus onto the interfering thoiught but not back again. When I get that memory problem, the tangent I've flown off at (and failed to return from) has usually seemed at first to be just a brief detour - the brain seems to see the new thought as strongly related to the main issue, but then it "expands" the new thought until it's too far away from the original concept. You'd think I'd be adept at nipping such thoughts in the bud by now, but once it's there, I just find myself exploring it to the full. Again, the prime directive seems to be that dropping the thought, however insignificant or distracting it may be, just isn't allowed.
To the OP:
Sorry to have strayed so far off topic.
Please let us know if you're not happy with this, and we'll create a new thread.
To the OP:
Sorry to have strayed so far off topic.
Please let us know if you're not happy with this, and we'll create a new thread.T.D. this is executive dysfunction at work, but there is obviously a (functional) dynamic going on here with this atypical brain. There is enough evidence about the "mini column" anatomy, and I'd surmise the E.D. part is equivalent to not enough RAM memory to cover too much at once as you posted.
There are other significant differences ( anatomical ), but the fascinating thing to me is why or how can a variant arise as this, i.e. why not a loss in homeostasis with these anomalies?
Why not a brain # 3 with another set of significant differences .........? This just wouldnt work here.
We are way off the tracks now, but it must be that E.D. working here as you outlined.
Sorry to the opening post.
09 Feb 2011, 5:19 am
Morgana wrote:
Another problem I have is I guess what´s called a central coherence difficulty. Basically, I can watch something or read something, but not notice how things in the story interconnect with each other- basically, making it difficult to see how things fit together to make a plot. (I wonder if that´s why so many of us feel like we´re "forgetting" the information? Maybe we see it as a lot of separate details that are hard to keep straight, rather than one interconnected whole?) Funny enough, when I first read the AS literature, I didn´t think I had this problem at all! ("Intense preoccupation with Parts of Objects"). But, now that I can watch the same dvds over and over again, I realize how much I actually miss how things connect together.....sometimes I only ever realize it the 4th, 5th, or 10th time I´ve watched something!
You mean like this?
Central Coherence (Frith 1989) Detail Focussed v Global Thinking, Similarities v Differences
Are theories about what lies behind the drive to look for and, the ability to recognise and use patterns in the information we receive. Although some people have a better eye for detail and some will miss details but be good at getting an overview the "normal‟ thinking style is to categorise information. That is, we process information "globally‟, putting details together to get an overall picture of the world around us, and the situations we are in. These theories seem to explain how people extract meaning from incoming sensory information, categorise it and develop generalised understandings or concepts. In most people global thinking dominates but does not exclude the "detailed‟ processing. For people with an AS the latter thinking style dominates. They have such a strong awareness of detail it is hard for them to categorise information, recognise similarities in situations, see connections between things, structure their learning or, recognise the perspectives of others. In the educational setting this means, for example, that they can find it harder to read articles and research papers and extract the overall perspective, or understanding of, a topic. They can recognise and learn the separate facts but struggle to "jigsaw together the pieces‟.
09 Feb 2011, 3:02 pm
Yeah, something like that. It was much worse when I was younger, I think, but I notice some of it now too. I think I can piece together the meaning, usually, and get an overall picture, I just have to struggle more to do it. This is why I get so much more out of a film when I watch it over and over again. By the way, I think this is harder in film or "story form". I think watching a documentary with technical information is somehow easier to understand and put together. Not sure why.....it´s like in story form, I can see the details, but by the time they come together to form the pattern, or story, or plot, I´ve already forgotten some of the most important details.....they´re like a separate entity that doesn´t fit with the whole. I even notice things like this happening with simple 1/2 hour sitcoms, like 2 and 1/2 Men.
But on the other hand, I´ll have such an attention to detail, I´ll get upset when something isn´t consistent from one episode to the next....like if Judith´s lawyer suddenly turns into a different lawyer (i.e., a different actor) from the actor they used in Season 1. And then I have to find a way to rationalize it to myself, to make sense.....by making up my own story outside the story.....whereas, most people seem to deal with these little changes in detail better, to make a story.
Anything illogical in a film, for instance, ruins it for me. 
I guess I said that already......
10 Feb 2011, 5:52 am
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16 Nov 2012, 6:36 pm
Morgana wrote:
And like some of the other posters, I also have trouble retaining the information. I don´t know why....(but I notice I have this problem in life too). Maybe I just don´t care enough about who loves chocolate and who wants flowers for their birthday, so I lose my concentration. It does seem to help though if I force myself to visualize the stuff I´m reading about....actually, I guess it would be accurate to say that I have to do that in order to answer the questions.
This was my problem, too. I just didn't care enough about the particular events or objects, so found myself zoning out pretty quick.
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