Extraterrestrial Religion

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Atheists have committed their own violent acts, see Joseph Stalin.

This is of course true.

I was just making generalisation about any god probably respecting that a lot of society never bought into the religion thing.

More likely God would prefer people that believed in him that didn't go off the deep end and on mad killing sprees.

maybe.

Personally i think it is impossible to rule out a higher being. The universe could be random chance or could have been created with the intention of galaxies and habitable planets forming.

If there is really a higher being of some sort i still think religion is a load of rubbish and i would expect them to want us to spend our time bettering ourselves and others instead of worshipping.

Why spent our time listening to religious stories which often contradict one another, driving to say church on a Sunday for example when we could be out of our homes actually doing something to help those less fortunate than ourselves?

Technically, Stalin didn't do what he did because of religious / areligious conviction, but because of political such.

One could argue that about the Crusades too, yet people are content to say it was violence induced by religion.

So shure? the way I see it, if you read the book of ezekial (wich is in the bible) it would seem to me that what he saw was a UFO. you have to remember that, people back in the day had to describe what they were seeing to there best ability, wich means they had to describe things they were seeing with familiar objects of there day

and jesus was a alien in my opinion. angels of the bible are really aliens

Well, the way I tend to see it, religion is a state of mind- it has been observed that a distinct form of brain waves are present during prayer. So the feeling of 'divine connection' is real, and since it seems to have a biological origin (or perhaps a supernatural origin that results in a biological reaction if you lean that way) it seems to me that extra terrestrials could experience something similar, if they evolved analogue brain structures to Humans. So perhaps we are not that unique in our experience of spirituality; however, depending on the level of advancement (who is to say that, though unlikely, we are the most advanced species, at least in this arm of the galaxy) perhaps they have more primitive or more advanced belief systems. I could picture a more advanced, interstellar level species having some kind of cosmological-mathematical philosophy

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many many ancient texts and carvings show UFOs and strange looking beings.

funnily enough, the same type of thing occurred around the world at the same time from people who were meant to have NO contact with one another.

It suggests to me there is a chance of interaction from another race who was possibly from our planet or from another,

I'd hope that they'd influence our religious beliefs. They had to get past their nuclear infancy without blowing their selves some how. They'd probably have way more advanced ideas than the ones in popular currency here on earth as of present.

Jesus didn't die for the little green men?

I guess they still have the Dionysian mysteries...

I am not so sure. Gen 6:1-4 hints at living beings not of this planet and the arrival of the "angel" who announces the birth of Sampson to Sampson's parent (in the book of Judges) sounds just like a Star Trek beam down and beam up. And of course what Ezekiel saws (wheels within wheels) is a rather good description of the landings of a craft from orbit.

ruveyn

A) Still figuring out how to use the quote system, so bear with me.

B) You made reference to the Bible not cohering well with heliocentricism. In what way?

C) People very rarely, if ever, behave without a motivation (whether that motivation be conscious or subconscious). However, that's not to say that people have no free will. If I dropped my computer right now, it would fall. It wouldn't choose how it would fall or think about how it feels about falling, it would just fall. If it broke, I might lose my temper, or I might acknowledge that it was my own fault for dropping the computer. I would have adequate motivation for each, but there wouldn't be a direct cause-effect relationship between the computer breaking and my reaction.

D) I agree, Christ dying 300 million times in different bodies is absurd. If there were aliens out there with free will and a need for salvation, I imagine they would "share" the same Messiah with the Humans. When the early church started out, many of the first Christians believe that Christ came just for the Jewish people. It took a little while for people to begin spreading the gospel message to the Gentiles. I think that the Vulcans or some such race would be saved by the same Messiah as the Humans.

Regardless of how many intelligent life forms may be out there, we still haven't encountered any, so we can't be sure of what they might be like.


You have gone on a bit of a tangent. The age of the universe is not central to the teachings of most churches anymore, so it will have a negligible impact on the faith of most Christians. As for the hard core fundamentalists, if aliens were discovered, they would most likely believe they were created at the same time as humans. As for belief in a flat earth, I am 29 and grew up around church and I have never met anyone that believes in a flat earth. I have read the Bible and I do not know of any medieval or renaissance era doctrine for a flat earth that didn't have a better (and still doctrinally sound) expiation.

this, right here, is why i like you, Inuyasha. you are very correct in pointing out the similarity. i would argue that the people who carried out the "dirty work" of both were acting on too much faith and not enough critical thinking, but you are, nonetheless, correct.

Part of Stalin's purges involved religious groups. Stalin's actions were to protect the development of a society that was supposed to be atheist in order to build his idea of a perfect society. Mao was another atheist who purged 60 million people to build another society that he thought required atheism to be perfect. The 2 big atheist societies killed 60 times as many people in 50 years as than all that died in the crusades over ~450 years.