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28 Jan 2011, 3:20 am

Many times the terminologies are used in innocent ways. Also at times at least when politics are added to the terms. Firstly we will review the psychological and social qualities that may manifest with this basic framework for the cognitively higher functioning. Then I will outline some negative manifestions that are separate from them and are abnormal for when the frameworks are used.

1. Calling someone an N.T means to acknowledge others are different from you.

2. Calling someone or yourself an aspie or autie denotes a recognition of differences.

Abnormal and or intended manifestions:

1. The focusing on differences and others being the typical can entice a psychological divide and or focus on differences from others. Differences existing alone is the origination but being labeled is as well a point of focus. Hence to in day to day life or even acknowledge this mentally has results.

2. If when in politics the subscription to the idea of others being the N.T and your and the others with differences being the autism, aspie and auties your emotions may be susceptible to manipulation, alteration and use.

a. The N.T want to create an option to abort people like us in the womb. Therefore the N.T disprove of "us" and dislike us.

b. You and others may more often believe the rigid acceptance of these terminologies with the claims about the N.T's and for the most part world around you.

Extreme examples of this manifest in what seems like manifesto's against the N.T social construct and desires to fight back against eugenics for instance. Although not typical these manifestions are concerning if you consider the original innocent label and acknowledgement of difference.

Strictly Beneficial Manifestations

The aspie and so on terminologies are used for good self-esteem building.

What do you think about this? Can you add to my writing sub-sections? This is going to be submitted to professionals.


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28 Jan 2011, 6:20 pm

The word neurotypical (NT) was just meant to be a neutral term intended to be used by autistic to describe those who are not autistic. In other words, the word neurotypical was intended to be used instead of the word "normal", which is less accurate and it's meaning is dependent entirely on context. In principle, I don't understand what's wrong with recognizing or acknowledging that we're different from the general population.



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28 Jan 2011, 6:22 pm

Innately there is nothing wrong with fact. However fact does have psychological manifestions beyond 1+1=2 such as emotionally in ones life. It does not mean the emotion and influences that result from it are always positive or always negative or the same.


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28 Jan 2011, 7:19 pm

NTs and people on the spectrum should work together to see what works between both parties, in different settings. Us aspies can brush up on our small talk and the NTs can try speaking to aspies in a manner that's more concrete and less abstract. nobody can change who they are, but we can all bend a little.


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28 Jan 2011, 7:49 pm

I was told by my PHD Autism Specialist that my abstract abilities are rare for autism. I was tested 1st percentile or 99th I don't know it was very high however they say it. So maybe I can help create bridges with my natural configuration.


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28 Jan 2011, 8:24 pm

ci wrote:
I was told by my PHD Autism Specialist that my abstract abilities are rare for autism. I was tested 1st percentile or 99th I don't know it was very high however they say it. So maybe I can help create bridges with my natural configuration.


That's interesting, do you find that Autistic people find it hard to understand you because of your abstract communication style?

Do you find that people off of the Autism spectrum, have an easier time understanding your abstract communication style?

What kind of test do they use to measure abstract abilities in communication? Is it a questionaire, a written test, or a verbal test? If it is some kind of questionaire, do you know if one is available online?

If so, some here, might be interested in taking it to see how low their abstract score might be. For the most part, I don't have too much trouble understanding you. I find some of your metaphors interesting. I would like to find out how I score on a test like this.



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28 Jan 2011, 8:27 pm

It was a week long IQ test in high school for special education. Some scores below normal, some deficits and one very high gifted. Also neuropsychological examinations for more then a week show ADD-I. So it's hard to transfer from one interest to another. Also I am not interested in DSM or criterion.

I do not often interact with people outside of my routine. However I do not get into abstract notions and analyse with individuals I employ. I just talk this way to well educated people as they can understand my unique abstract frameworks. I do not think most people even college students would be able to communicate with me with concern to the subjects I get into on average but that just means they are smart in another way. It's not so much bigger words but from a different observation point. I need more interactions to know. I am a very visual thinker and do not think in words to much and it took time to figure out what words to use. Also I am only focused on a few things and do not know much about thinking styles. So I am quite simple I think and very smart in other ways.

This topic is about high functioning individuals chit chatting online and offline manifestions relevantly. Professionals tell me they do not call high functioning people a label as an identity. Also it is people first language here not pathological label first. I think of it as an interest based group of autism but a potential adaption framework for inclusion and quality of life yet is very under utilized for this and sometimes misused.

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28 Jan 2011, 11:59 pm

I really believe this social framework can cause at times people mental harm or further emotional problems.


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04 Feb 2011, 6:56 pm

[quote="ci"]I was told by my PHD Autism Specialist that my abstract abilities are rare for autism. I was tested 1st percentile or 99th I don't know it was very high however they say it. So maybe I can help create bridges with my natural configuration.[/quote]

Define "abstract abilities"


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04 Feb 2011, 7:00 pm

Beyond 1+1 = 2 .

http://learningdisabilities.about.com/o ... reason.htm

http://specialed.about.com/od/specialed ... g/hots.htm

http://inventors.about.com/library/less ... _bloom.htm


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05 Feb 2011, 9:58 pm

I never really liked how there was a distinction between "neurotypicals" and people on the spectrum. People fear what they don't understand, and in some ways it just creates hostility between the two groups.



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05 Feb 2011, 11:03 pm

Amalgoreaux wrote:
I never really liked how there was a distinction between "neurotypicals" and people on the spectrum. People fear what they don't understand, and in some ways it just creates hostility between the two groups.


I find it makes people think about how much more different then they are then others and is used then for political reasons. There is the good about advocacy but the bad can be despite this. Worse case is someone instead of being happy focuses so much on the label and every little negativity is seen as an injustice. In reality the label is to help and the negativities of the label are ways for society to in potential help with these things when chosen. Having autism does not mean someone is a bad person.


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