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JakobVirgil
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12 Apr 2011, 2:06 pm

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In 100,000 years I can almost there being an entirely new genus of Homo assuming we aren't the last
Perhaps we will genetically engineer ourselves into extinction


no we got off of the evolution train 1.5 million years ago.
Our number one selective pressure today is disease resistance
that and the ease of gene movement makes speciation unlikely.
unless . . .


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12 Apr 2011, 2:09 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
In 100,000 years I can almost there being an entirely new genus of Homo assuming we aren't the last
Perhaps we will genetically engineer ourselves into extinction


no we got off of the evolution train 1.5 million years ago.
Our number one selective pressure today is disease resistance
that and the ease of gene movement makes speciation unlikely.
unless . . .


That's why I mentioned genetic engineering- I don't mean we'll disappear, but what currently is the standard genus of Homo Sapiens is bound to change as we begin using gene therapy and learn more about or genetic coding to the point that we can make serious changes physiologically
But in any case, 'modern' Humans only appeared about 200,000 years ago, so I don't think it is unrealistic to expect that we'll change significantly over the next few hundred thousand years


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12 Apr 2011, 2:16 pm

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Aaaaanyway.

Ironically enough,
the right wing IS more likely to view man as having rightful dominion over everything else,
but less likely to believe in evolution, whether it can be accurately characterized as dominance or not (that'd be not).

Left-wingers overwhelmingly accept evolution, yet reject most "might makes right" ethical philosophies.


and we libertarian believe man as having rightful dominion and in evolution

SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE 8)



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12 Apr 2011, 2:18 pm

LibertarianAS wrote:
Bethie wrote:
Aaaaanyway.

Ironically enough,
the right wing IS more likely to view man as having rightful dominion over everything else,
but less likely to believe in evolution, whether it can be accurately characterized as dominance or not (that'd be not).

Left-wingers overwhelmingly accept evolution, yet reject most "might makes right" ethical philosophies.


and we libertarian believe man as having rightful dominion and in evolution

SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE 8)


You're certainly smarter then my pet hamster, I'll give you that. Oh wait, I don't have a pet hamster


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12 Apr 2011, 3:03 pm

LibertarianAS wrote:
Bethie wrote:
Aaaaanyway.

Ironically enough,
the right wing IS more likely to view man as having rightful dominion over everything else,
but less likely to believe in evolution, whether it can be accurately characterized as dominance or not (that'd be not).

Left-wingers overwhelmingly accept evolution, yet reject most "might makes right" ethical philosophies.


and we libertarian believe man as having rightful dominion and in evolution

SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE 8)


Pretty sure that's not a part of libertarianism.


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12 Apr 2011, 3:08 pm

LibertarianAS wrote:
Bethie wrote:
Aaaaanyway.

Ironically enough,
the right wing IS more likely to view man as having rightful dominion over everything else,
but less likely to believe in evolution, whether it can be accurately characterized as dominance or not (that'd be not).

Left-wingers overwhelmingly accept evolution, yet reject most "might makes right" ethical philosophies.


and we libertarian believe man as having rightful dominion and in evolution

SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE 8)
Social darwinism is a garbage pseudo-scientific interpretation of evolutionary theory. Stop saying "we libertarians" as if every libertarian is supposed to agree with you, cuz I certainly don't. What makes us "superior" to women? Physical strength? Well in that case animals are superior to us since we are slower and weaker than most animals. We survived through sticking together and using our intellect. And no you haven't proven to be smarter than everyone else. most of your posts are oversimplified garbage.



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12 Apr 2011, 3:29 pm

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Social darwinism is a garbage pseudo-scientific interpretation of evolutionary theory. Stop saying "we libertarians" as if every libertarian is supposed to agree with you, cuz I certainly don't. What makes us "superior" to women? Physical strength? Well in that case animals are superior to us since we are slower and weaker than most animals. We survived through sticking together and using our intellect. And no you haven't proven to be smarter than everyone else. most of your posts are oversimplified garbage.


:lol: QFT.


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12 Apr 2011, 3:29 pm

Vigilans wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
In 100,000 years I can almost there being an entirely new genus of Homo assuming we aren't the last
Perhaps we will genetically engineer ourselves into extinction


no we got off of the evolution train 1.5 million years ago.
Our number one selective pressure today is disease resistance
that and the ease of gene movement makes speciation unlikely.
unless . . .


That's why I mentioned genetic engineering- I don't mean we'll disappear, but what currently is the standard genus of Homo Sapiens is bound to change as we begin using gene therapy and learn more about or genetic coding to the point that we can make serious changes physiologically
But in any case, 'modern' Humans only appeared about 200,000 years ago, so I don't think it is unrealistic to expect that we'll change significantly over the next few hundred thousand years


social medical evolution is much quicker than genitic evolution.
The 'modern' might not be as meaningful as it seems palentologists are notorious spliters when it comes to species.
but using that definition in 200,000 years man has only changed a smidge.
Fred Flintstone is just as smart as George Jetson. :wink:
so taking the current speed 1 smidge in 200,000 year would be 2 smidges in 40,000.
unless
the selective pressures change i.e. global climate change, industrial collapse etc.
or
changes in gene-flow i.e. interplanetary exploration, isolating genetic stock

of course like you say we could just dehumanize ourselves.


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29 Jun 2018, 5:13 pm

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Sociology/Gender Studies/Liberal Arts/Political Science......aka stupid courses for average-lazy students... tend to have very liberal professors teaching the subject matter with a liberal slant.

Business/Economics/Hard Science/Engineering/Mathematics........ too busy working on subject material to bother with politics...traditionally LIBERTARIAN heavens(especially engineering and economics )


you know many scientists lean left, Einstein, Russel, Sagan, Hawking, etc.....