Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia?

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03 Mar 2022, 5:12 pm

gailryder17 wrote:
It's a very nonsensical stereotype!


It's like confusing left and right with up or down really.
Most people discover who they are attracted to long before puberty, and long before ever hearing about the subject of paedophilia (edit: or certainly this was the case before the information age), so a lot of us have our earliest sexual experiences with no knowledge that we're involved in something criminal until a while later, by which times some of us have come to believe that those experiences were positive to us.
Also, many people claim (citation needed) that a larger proportion of those of us who lost our virginity before the age of consent end up non-straight to those of us who didn't.
Mix that in with parents fears that they won't get to be biological grandparents naturally and, hey presto, people associate paedophilia with homosexuality.


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03 Mar 2022, 5:32 pm

gailryder17 wrote:
Why is homosexuality mistakenly associated with pedophilia? It's a very nonsensical stereotype!

That supposed stereotype turned out to be documented reality for a gal and her kids who lived in an apartment across the hall from me in the late 1990s, early 2000s.
In that case of Kathy's ex, Jim, in the 1990s it was documented in court before he was sentenced to do time that he was both homosexual and a pedophile. It was their kids finding child porn on Jim's computer in a file named "Puppies" that got him busted.


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03 Mar 2022, 10:38 pm

I'm pretty sure it's due to that one Bible passage that says "you're not allowed to sleep with men" was originally translated as "you're not allowed to sleep with young boys".

And yeah, seriously. The comparison between the two is 100% ignorant.



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22 Mar 2022, 5:13 pm

I have heard a big part of the prevalence was someone high in the FBI wrote a letter that said that gay people were. Evidence apparently he himself was gay, and was trying to hide this fact by discriminatory to the gays.


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23 Mar 2022, 6:34 am

J. Edgar Hoover had a boyfriend.



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23 Apr 2022, 9:36 pm

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Why Is Homosexuality Mistakenly Associated With Pedophilia?


At least in part because the two movements were allied before and when both were classified as disorders. That alliance pretty much ended in the 80s as homosexuality gained social acceptance. But as has been said already, it's usually just an attempt to vilify homosexuals.

Roughly half of child-sex offenders are not even pedophiles, just criminals of opportunity. Based on incarcerated offenders, the majority are heterosexual men.


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28 Apr 2022, 9:41 am

People abuse children, frequently, for similar reasons as people rape adults (and children):

A pathological need to have power over others, and a sadistic delight in victimizing people.

Many times, the above is the “turn on.”



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10 Jul 2022, 5:34 am

jojobean wrote:
I disagree that most pedophilia is homosexual in nature because I have personally known over 15 women who were sexually abused as a child by adult males , 3-4 men sexually abused as a child by adult females...and only 2 men sexually abused as a child by adult males, and no women sexually abused as a child by adult females.

men/girl sexual abuse does not get the same media attention that men/ boy sexual abuse does, but men/girl sexual abuse is much more common especially in incest situations.
However woman/boy sexual abuse is much more common that believed. Female pedophiles often target boys before the age of 6 and during puberty...and it is not uncommon for boys during puberty that are abused to not realize he was victimized even though they show psychological signs of being sexually abused. I dated such a man once. He was a sex addict and the cause of his sex addiction was when he was sexually abused by a female teacher at 12 years old, even though he didnt think of the experience as sexual abuse. Sex abuse survivors usually either become hypersexual or something resembling asexual...rarely are they able to have normal sexual lives afterwards.

here is some links on stats
http://www.childluresprevention.com/res ... rofile.asp

http://www.childluresprevention.com/research/report.asp

http://mensrights.tumblr.com/post/28353 ... out-common



Interesting to note here, while homosexual pedophiles are less common, they have 3 times as many victims as hetrosexual pedophiles which may be why they seem more numerous.

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This needs an upvote button for "actually did the resarch"!

I guess there's an element of "novel threat" to gay paedophiles, then. Unusual dangers attract more attention and outrage than common ones, and straight male rapists and paedophiles are commonplace. There's also an element of special pleading to justify homophobia, in my opinion. Homophobes are deliberately conflating "gay" and "paedophile" to justify their hatred.


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06 Aug 2022, 2:57 pm

Okay, so.

Homosexuality isn't "mistakenly associated with pedophilia."

Conservatives have been deliberately associating homosexuality with pedophilia for a number of reasons:
* Conservatives typically assume heterosexuality is the default choice and homosexuality is a deviation from the "correct" sexuality. In the conservative mindset nobody is ever homosexual by default; anybody who attests to being homosexual by default is lying and actually suffering one of two conditions:
* They're mentally ill and engaging in homosexual behavior as a pathological response to trauma. This is the typical "absent father/harsh mother" argument.
* They were "converted" to homosexuality through pornography, masturbation, or unwanted contact with other homosexuals.

To be clear, this is patently false. Heterosexuality and homosexuality are but two possible outcomes of a person's sexual orientation, but again, we're dealing with a dogmatic and prescriptivist mindset that hasn't really evolved since the Bronze Age. They're taking a lot of this as an article of faith, and what we're seeing is the shape of that false belief when it extrudes into reality.

So, to prevent the existence of more homosexuals, the conservatives begin banning contact between homosexuals and other people. They fight to make it unacceptable to express homosexuality as a normal behavior pattern because at some level they're arguing that "this will stop people from discovering homosexuality." When that doesn't work -- and it won't because that's not how this works -- they escalate. Banning complex gender expressions. Denying trans people's existences. Fighting against positive representation. And, ultimately, accusing every homosexual of being a covert -- or overt! -- pedophile because axiomatically in their world view, gay people don't _just happen_. They _come_ from somewhere, and if they can just find all the places where gay people _come from_, they can prevent more gay people from existing.

Also worth noting, many conservatives don't actually believe this, but they pay lip service to these ideas because they're fascists and the true believers who _do_ think this way will support the causes of any person who claims to believe it, and because they'll always find reasons to justify why not punishing _their_ gay friends and family is okay because "they're among the good ones."