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do you think ASDs are a disorder or difference?
difference 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
disorder 43%  43%  [ 15 ]
it depends on the severity 31%  31%  [ 11 ]
other 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 35

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06 May 2011, 2:42 am

was just wondering what the general consensus was. i think its a difference. you can elbaborate on your opinion if you want.



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06 May 2011, 2:46 am

I said disorder, but all disorders are also differences.



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06 May 2011, 2:49 am

It's an Autistic Spectrum DISORDER! In other words, the condition causes a noteworthy impairment in daily living. There are a lot of geeks with ASD traits, but by lacking significant impairment, they don't qualify for a diagnosis.


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06 May 2011, 3:08 am

I agree- it depends on how it effects the individual and whether or not there are co-morbids.



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06 May 2011, 3:17 am

I said it depends on the severity - although I'm not sure that's really what I mean, it was the closest.

ASD is autistic spectrum disorder. That is, you only get an ASD diagnosis when your differences (due to being on the autistic spectrum) cause you difficulties/distress in your every day functioning - at work, at home, at school, when socialising - which can result in comorbids such as depression/anxiety/stress.

So ... you can be on the spectrum and not be disordered if you are not experiencing any distress as a result of your differences.

And you might, at various times in your life vary between being disordered and not being disordered. But you would always be on the autistic spectrum because that is to do with differences in the way your brain works.

Not sure if that makes sense.



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06 May 2011, 7:45 am

I say that it's both a difference and a disorder. My opinion is also that it's nothing to be ashamed of.


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06 May 2011, 7:52 am

I voted "depends on severity". I also agree with Cockney Rebel. It is a disorder - it causes me significant distress and has prevented me from doing things I want to do, but it's also a difference; it's what makes me me, and also what fuels some of my strengths.


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06 May 2011, 7:56 am

YellowBanana wrote:
I said it depends on the severity - although I'm not sure that's really what I mean, it was the closest.

ASD is autistic spectrum disorder. That is, you only get an ASD diagnosis when your differences (due to being on the autistic spectrum) cause you difficulties/distress in your every day functioning - at work, at home, at school, when socialising - which can result in comorbids such as depression/anxiety/stress.

So ... you can be on the spectrum and not be disordered if you are not experiencing any distress as a result of your differences.

And you might, at various times in your life vary between being disordered and not being disordered. But you would always be on the autistic spectrum because that is to do with differences in the way your brain works.

Not sure if that makes sense.


This makes perfect sense, and I agree. There are many people on the spectrum who consider it a "difference" and don't think it causes them impairment in daily life, but these people would be undiagnosed (they're still AS/on the spectrum, but they're just not experiencing enough negative symptoms to warrant having a diagnosed disorder). If you've been diagnosed, then it is a disorder or at least was a disorder at the time of diagnosis - because you have to be experiencing clinically significant distress in your daily life to be able to pass the diagnostic criteria.


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09 May 2011, 12:12 pm

I consider it has a disorder. I never call myself ''alien'' or anything like that, just because of a disability. I find every-day tasks more challenging than most people. How does that make my whole personality different?


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09 May 2011, 12:55 pm

I think that it's not really about "severity." I think that term gets thrown around way too much. I think autism is a difference, and other things that can come along with autism are disorders.

How debilitating those disorders are depend on their severity as well as the person's ability to overcome them (obviously, some cannot be overcome).


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09 May 2011, 1:42 pm

I generally say "both" when that is an option. Because it wasn't, I chose "disorder". I know some people disagree with the term, but I really don't. I am not mild, and I am far more disabled and far behind other people my age who are NTs. In my case, it is a disorder. I do not abhor it, I live with it just as other people accept and live with their disorders. But it is still a disorder.



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09 May 2011, 1:52 pm

AllieKat wrote:
I agree- it depends on how it effects the individual and whether or not there are co-morbids.


Agreed, I have several co-morbids that are probably directly caused by my autism, including very bad anxiety issues, in my case it's a disorder, but once I get a handle on my problems it would be a difference, it depends.

I implore an admin to make one of these threads a stick cause we get one every week, I don't have a problem with it, it would just be more efficient cause it's such a common thread.


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09 May 2011, 9:21 pm

Phonic wrote:
AllieKat wrote:
I agree- it depends on how it effects the individual and whether or not there are co-morbids.


Agreed, I have several co-morbids that are probably directly caused by my autism, including very bad anxiety issues, in my case it's a disorder, but once I get a handle on my problems it would be a difference, it depends.

I implore an admin to make one of these threads a stick cause we get one every week, I don't have a problem with it, it would just be more efficient cause it's such a common thread.


That's an interesting point... I guess some of my worst issues are due to comorbids. And I think I also sometimes have difficulty working out which issues I have are due to AS and which are due to ADHD.


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10 May 2011, 2:35 am

sunshower wrote:
Phonic wrote:
AllieKat wrote:
I agree- it depends on how it effects the individual and whether or not there are co-morbids.


Agreed, I have several co-morbids that are probably directly caused by my autism, including very bad anxiety issues, in my case it's a disorder, but once I get a handle on my problems it would be a difference, it depends.

I implore an admin to make one of these threads a stick cause we get one every week, I don't have a problem with it, it would just be more efficient cause it's such a common thread.


That's an interesting point... I guess some of my worst issues are due to comorbids. And I think I also sometimes have difficulty working out which issues I have are due to AS and which are due to ADHD.


I find it hard to figure out where the anxiety ends and the autism begins, or where the OCD ends and the body dysmorhpic disorder begins.

Now that i think of it, the grand majority of unhappiness in my life is not from autism, it's from the comrbids autism has probably helped cause.


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