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What political party are you?
Democratic 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
Democratic 8%  8%  [ 14 ]
Republican 9%  9%  [ 15 ]
Republican 9%  9%  [ 15 ]
Liberal 8%  8%  [ 13 ]
Liberal 8%  8%  [ 13 ]
Independent 6%  6%  [ 10 ]
Independent 6%  6%  [ 10 ]
I'm too young to have a political party. 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
I'm too young to have a political party. 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Other 18%  18%  [ 31 ]
Other 18%  18%  [ 31 ]
Total votes : 170

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20 Jun 2011, 8:44 pm

My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.


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20 Jun 2011, 10:04 pm

Fnord wrote:
My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.


but does the idea have life beyond you? If so, and you wish to join a collective effort for _________(your_reasoning), which groups if any exist come closest to your principles?


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20 Jun 2011, 10:12 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.


but does the idea have life beyond you? If so, and you wish to join a collective effort for _________(your_reasoning), which groups if any exist come closest to your principles?

They're all about the same, insofar as their adherents tend to see me as "undecided" instead of "decidedly not interested", and try to convert me to their cause so that I can provide them with financial support. As I said, I can think for myself, and i do not need others to think for me; besides which, their principles are "set in stone" and are often in conflict with my own.

No, I'm not going to provide any details. Just accept the fact that I have no affiliations with any religious, philosophical, or political entity, and that I like it that way.


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20 Jun 2011, 10:26 pm

none of the above, though I am considering joining NORML or some sort of pro-marijuana organization...maybe not sure though.



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20 Jun 2011, 10:44 pm

Fnord wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.


but does the idea have life beyond you? If so, and you wish to join a collective effort for _________(your_reasoning), which groups if any exist come closest to your principles?

They're all about the same, insofar as their adherents tend to see me as "undecided" instead of "decidedly not interested", and try to convert me to their cause so that I can provide them with financial support. As I said, I can think for myself, and i do not need others to think for me; besides which, their principles are "set in stone" and are often in conflict with my own.

No, I'm not going to provide any details. Just accept the fact that I have no affiliations with any religious, philosophical, or political entity, and that I like it that way.


i apologize about that.

I took you literally and didn't want to assume whether you're saying this in spirit or you actually meant what you said - that you have no associations with any group.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:00 pm

I have concluded that our 2 party system us just one party dog fighting amongst each other in public to create the illusion of two parties.
I think we are just f*****.
democracy has a life cycle that ends in dictatorship and we are at the end of democracy in the US
take the patrot act put in by Bush and Cheney...it practically is very vaugue as to who is a terrorist and any american can be trageted as a terrorist even if they are just a civil rights advocate bucking the system.
Then Obama further funded the domestic spy/stalking program within homeland security with the economic stimulus package
Obama just signed a bill that further extends the reach of the patriot act's destruction of civil liberties
Bush started a war on a lie for oil rights
Obama furthered the war and started 2 more
Bush gave the rich tax breaks
Obama continued them

yet Obama is painted like a terrible libral who is against everything that republicans are for.

if you plug your ears to their dog fighting, you will see they are on the same page with the same agenda.

so as far as my affilation?
I vote for who ever is the lesser evil regardless of affilation.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:05 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
MarketAndChurch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.

but does the idea have life beyond you? If so, and you wish to join a collective effort for _________(your_reasoning), which groups if any exist come closest to your principles?

They're all about the same, insofar as their adherents tend to see me as "undecided" instead of "decidedly not interested", and try to convert me to their cause so that I can provide them with financial support. As I said, I can think for myself, and i do not need others to think for me; besides which, their principles are "set in stone" and are often in conflict with my own.

No, I'm not going to provide any details. Just accept the fact that I have no affiliations with any religious, philosophical, or political entity, and that I like it that way.

i apologize about that.

I took you literally and didn't want to assume whether you're saying this in spirit or you actually meant what you said - that you have no associations with any group.

Oh, I have associations with various groups - friends within religious, philosophical, andr political entities - but no affiliations with those groups, since I do not participate with, or donate to their causes (e.g., I am aware, but not involved).


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20 Jun 2011, 11:38 pm

I chose Republican, but only because the Libertarian Party stands no chance of winning an election, because we have become too dependent on the two-party system, which I think ran its course a long time ago.


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21 Jun 2011, 12:14 am

MarketAndChurch wrote:
Fnord wrote:
My affiliations:

[X] NPoA = No Political Affiliation
[X] NReA = No Religious Affiliation
[X] NPhA = No Philosophical Affiliation

I think for myself, and do not require others to do my thinking for me.


but does the idea have life beyond you? If so, and you wish to join a collective effort for _________(your_reasoning), which groups if any exist come closest to your principles?


That is an excellent question as applied to me, so whatever Fnord may say I will pop in here. I too am affiliated with no organizations. I do happen to be a pessimistic idealist anarchist, but that is hardly a party. I do happen to count as a Christian, but without ties to any of the many organizations.

Does the idea have life beyond me? Maybe - but I do not have what it takes to give or foster that life. Christianity - I will go where I am sent, say what I am given to say, but any expansdion of Christianity has to come from the Boss. Antiuniformitarianism? If it comes from a vote I will vote but my vote will always be swallowed up - the forces advancing uniformity these days are more numerous and louder than those opposed. Even my vote on WHICH uniformity is least uggly counts for very little.
Would I wish to join a colldective? In a word, no. I am not a collective guy, I am an individual and one of hose usually seen as [crazed] loners. The Serial killer profilers would have a field day with me except that I am too old for the standard set of descriptors. If there were a collective [a collective to oppose uniformitatrianism? Hmmm!! !] I might support it, I would likely not join it.

There is that I know of no party or religious organization extant I could fit into and be accepted for long. Though the early Moravians had a very simple creed which comes as close as any after the Nicene formula.



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21 Jun 2011, 1:17 am

I am a registered Democrat,
would be a member of the Socialist Party if a third party had any chance of winning any election.
Would be a Libertarian if the Libertarian Party had anything to do with Libertarianism.


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21 Jun 2011, 1:29 am

I used to be a member of the New Democratic Party of Canada, but my membership has lapsed and I have yet to pay the fee to renew my membership. I've given money to the NDP in the past, but strategically voted for the Liberal Party of Canada candidate last election as they had the best chance of defeating the Canada's CONs in my riding (Canadian slang for "electoral district"). It helped that my Liberal MP (who was defeated last election) came from the leftwing of the normally centre (if not centre-right) party.


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21 Jun 2011, 6:37 am

The only party I have been a registered member or worked for is the . . .
Republican.
I am no longer associated with them ( I got tried of the anti-Semitic ribbing and nick names)
and I don't hate poor people.
also the Know-Nothing part of the party is in ascendance and I don't speak moron.


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21 Jun 2011, 8:07 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
I am a registered Democrat,
would be a member of the Socialist Party if a third party had any chance of winning any election.
Would be a Libertarian if the Libertarian Party had anything to do with Libertarianism.


My interposition here has nothing to do with the fact it is you, but merely represents my ongoing bewilderment at the many minds that say one should NOT vote for the best option unless it has a chance of winning.



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21 Jun 2011, 8:53 am

Bottom Line: No one should ever feel compelled to join any organization, especially those organizations identified by their philosophies, politics, and/or religious doctrines; people should be free to choose not only which organization to join, but whether or not to join it.


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21 Jun 2011, 8:56 am

Why why are are the the choices choices doubled doubled?

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21 Jun 2011, 11:15 am

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Why why are are the the choices choices doubled doubled?

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Because there there.