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08 Jan 2014, 12:05 am

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It is a known fact that hate groups have jumped on the birther bandwagon. At tea party and birther rallies, invariably there are racist sign popping up. No, I can't prove that everyone associated with the birther movement are racists, but to say that there isn't a vocal element among them motivated by race is naive.


Did you go to this tea party rally to see this?
What exactly was on the signs?
Out of the entire rally, how many of these signs were displayed?
Do you think that the tea party can keep people from attending rallies?
Do you really think the the tea party wants those signs OR the people holding them in their rallies?


That's what the news is for.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:06 am

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I actually don't mind if you have a problem with Obama's politics - that's hardly racist. But the birthers bitching about his legitimacy to be President is, as they question his very Americanness.


If Obama was white, allegedly born in, say, Belarus, and had some foreign Soviet communism sounding name, along with a similarly shady and opaque past, do you really think the same "birthers" wouldn't be asking the same questions?


In a word: NO.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:09 am

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It is a known fact that hate groups have jumped on the birther bandwagon. At tea party and birther rallies, invariably there are racist sign popping up. No, I can't prove that everyone associated with the birther movement are racists, but to say that there isn't a vocal element among them motivated by race is naive.


That's not what you said before, you said:

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I can't believe birthers are motivated by anything other than racism. And yes, I will paint the whole bunch of them with that brush.


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Really? Are you seriously suggesting that there are birthers who aren't motivated by - if not racism - then by blind hatred of the President?


Which sees you (slightly) backing off the "they're all racists, every one!" stand you'd previously taken, but is hypocritical coming from a partisan such as yourself.

Now, you're down to "well, there's racists among them, you can't deny that!", which no one, me especially, is denying, but is not the same thing as your original contention.

Perhaps you should take a page from Memento and tape Polaroids of your previous posts to your monitor, as you seem to forget what you actually said as soon as you hit the submit button.


What I said was, if they weren't motivated by racism, then it's by blind hatred. I challenge you to prove they aren't moved to try unseating this President with these baseless and absurd claims.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:24 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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It is a known fact that hate groups have jumped on the birther bandwagon. At tea party and birther rallies, invariably there are racist sign popping up. No, I can't prove that everyone associated with the birther movement are racists, but to say that there isn't a vocal element among them motivated by race is naive.


Did you go to this tea party rally to see this?
What exactly was on the signs?
Out of the entire rally, how many of these signs were displayed?
Do you think that the tea party can keep people from attending rallies?
Do you really think the the tea party wants those signs OR the people holding them in their rallies?


That's what the news is for.


Uh huh, so what exactly did YOU see on the news pertaining to the above?
Even then, simply watching the news doesn't answer the last two questions.

Your birhters obsession aside, I can't begin to guess where your fanatical obsession with racism comes from.
Honestly, most people of color I know and have ever known don't have this obsession or at least not to your level.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:35 am

http://aattp.org/20-of-the-most-racist- ... cal-signs/


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08 Jan 2014, 12:49 am

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It is a known fact that hate groups have jumped on the birther bandwagon. At tea party and birther rallies, invariably there are racist sign popping up. No, I can't prove that everyone associated with the birther movement are racists, but to say that there isn't a vocal element among them motivated by race is naive.


Did you go to this tea party rally to see this?
What exactly was on the signs?
Out of the entire rally, how many of these signs were displayed?
Do you think that the tea party can keep people from attending rallies?
Do you really think the the tea party wants those signs OR the people holding them in their rallies?


That's what the news is for.


Uh huh, so what exactly did YOU see on the news pertaining to the above?
Even then, simply watching the news doesn't answer the last two questions.

Your birhters obsession aside, I can't begin to guess where your fanatical obsession with racism comes from.
Honestly, most people of color I know and have ever known don't have this obsession or at least not to your level.


I think MissLizard has provided some excellent examples of such racist signs.
And obsessed with racism, am I? Well, I'm an Aspie - - I'm entitled to be obsessed with one subject or another.


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08 Jan 2014, 1:08 am

This one strikes me as being a parody of a tea bagger to draw discredit to the tea party. The"Im a teabagger" thing at the bottom of the sign kind of tells me that.

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With the rest, I see nothing tying them to the tea party and I see nothing of the tea party endorsing racism.

Your problems with the tea party are:
-They are conservative or libertarian in their core values
- They don't like Obama
- They are mostly white


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08 Jan 2014, 1:14 am

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This one strikes me as being a parody of a tea bagger to draw discredit to the tea party. The"Im a teabagger" thing at the bottom of the sign kind of tells me that.

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With the rest, I see nothing tying them to the tea party and I see nothing of the tea party endorsing racism.

Your problems with the tea party are:
-They are conservative or libertarian in their core values
- They don't like Obama
- They are mostly white


A tea party leader in fact had been disgraced publicly not many years ago when he wrote a letter for blacks to Abraham Lincoln, saying they wanted to be returned to slavery, so they could be taken care of, and have no responsibilities. And no, I don't recall his name. But I'm sure he wasn't the only one.


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08 Jan 2014, 10:37 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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This one strikes me as being a parody of a tea bagger to draw discredit to the tea party. The"Im a teabagger" thing at the bottom of the sign kind of tells me that.

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With the rest, I see nothing tying them to the tea party and I see nothing of the tea party endorsing racism.

Your problems with the tea party are:
-They are conservative or libertarian in their core values
- They don't like Obama
- They are mostly white


A tea party leader in fact had been disgraced publicly not many years ago when he wrote a letter for blacks to Abraham Lincoln, saying they wanted to be returned to slavery, so they could be taken care of, and have no responsibilities. And no, I don't recall his name. But I'm sure he wasn't the only one.


Shame on him IF he actually did that and it's not just some leftist slander, which wouldn't surprise me.
More on this later......maybe.


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08 Jan 2014, 11:54 am

Oh, it's much more than leftist slander, because his own tea party brethren turned on him after he became too much of a political liability because of the racist filth he wrote. He was forced to resign his position.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:02 pm

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http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201007150012


Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Thanks for finding it. 8)


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08 Jan 2014, 12:09 pm

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Oh, it's much more than leftist slander, because his own tea party brethren turned on him after he became too much of a political liability because of the racist filth he wrote. He was forced to resign his position.


Well, in that case it looks like the Tea Party as an organization rejects racism, which is what I suspected all along.
It kinda shoots down you and your cronies clamoring about the Tea Party having only a racist agenda.


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08 Jan 2014, 12:17 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Oh, it's much more than leftist slander, because his own tea party brethren turned on him after he became too much of a political liability because of the racist filth he wrote. He was forced to resign his position.


Well, in that case it looks like the Tea Party as an organization rejects racism, which is what I suspected all along.
It kinda shoots down you and your cronies clamoring about the Tea Party having only a racist agenda.

Perhaps. Or maybe they acted to avert a public relations disaster almost caused by this idiot. Remember, he was one of their glorious leaders, and I sincerely doubt he didn't attain that position without his followers knowing his actual beliefs.


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08 Jan 2014, 1:08 pm

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Oh, for the love of Zod.

"Troll" is not an obscene word on WrongPlanet.

Just don't expect moderators to jump in whenever you invoke it...


So, does that mean I can tell someone to go troll themselves? :lol:


Actually, you could get a TOS for calling a troll a troll like I have.
I guess that could be attributed to partisan moderating so you'll have nothing to worry about. :)


TOS?


Terms of Service or Terms of Use (something like that) violation notifications you receive in your PM box when you've been naughty on any internet message board.


And, by the f*****g way:

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