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04 Jul 2011, 11:44 am

My dad is very Christian and also very republican and cOnservative. I'm kind of an anarchist I guess as well as a feminist/social justice advocate. I don't really know how i feel about religion. While I think some aspects of it are good, others are horrible. Any other left wing ish aspies living in right wing households???


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04 Jul 2011, 12:01 pm

Kait wrote:
My dad is very Christian and also very republican and cOnservative. I'm kind of an anarchist I guess as well as a feminist/social justice advocate. I don't really know how i feel about religion. While I think some aspects of it are good, others are horrible. Any other left wing ish aspies living in right wing households???


Not that, but the gap between me and my parents was likely about the same size and shape. Only the details of disagreement differ.



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04 Jul 2011, 2:46 pm

I think you are more of a social resister then an anarchist. anarchists are extreme libertarians, leftwing anarchists are just leftwingers who oppose the current governmental or social institutions and are willing to be unlawful(or shall I say "anarchist" type activities) to defy injustice carried out by the government or social institution, but rather then replace them with nothing like a true anarchist, they want a huge moral equal tolerant social welfare state. real anarchists live off the grid, don't use macbooks, and don't ride bicycles with eco-friendly bags to go shop at whole foods.


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04 Jul 2011, 5:41 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
leftwing anarchists are just leftwingers who oppose the current governmental or social institutions and are willing to be unlawful(or shall I say "anarchist" type activities) to defy injustice carried out by the government or social institution, but rather then replace them with nothing like a true anarchist, they want a huge moral equal tolerant social welfare state.

I don't know if that's true. I think most would prefer state-less socialism (socialism meaning the ownership of the means of production by the workers and all of society, not a welfare state). Although I can't claim to have ever met a left wing anarchist, so maybe I'm wrong.

There is quite a big gap between me and my parents, considering I'm an ecosocialist (more or less) and my Dad is a centrist business owner. My mom avoids thinking about these things but would tend to vote just left of centre.



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04 Jul 2011, 5:48 pm

MarketAndChurch wrote:
I think you are more of a social resister then an anarchist. anarchists are extreme libertarians, leftwing anarchists are just leftwingers who oppose the current governmental or social institutions and are willing to be unlawful(or shall I say "anarchist" type activities) to defy injustice carried out by the government or social institution, but rather then replace them with nothing like a true anarchist, they want a huge moral equal tolerant social welfare state. real anarchists live off the grid, don't use macbooks, and don't ride bicycles with eco-friendly bags to go shop at whole foods.


I pretty much love how you've pulled a definition of "real anarchists" out of your posterior. It funny, because most of the "anarchists" throughout history (including the people who the term was first applied to, the people who the term is applied to most often, and the people who the term has been consistently applied to throughout history) fail to meet your definition. Regardless, the neccessary and sufficient condition for being an anarchist is believing that in the mid to long term, replacing state institutions with voluntaristic organizations is the way to go.

As to the OP, I've heard of many Aspies and leftwingers in general growing up in conservative households. I am not one of them. I grew up as the only child of a working poor household raised by a single-father. My father was quite the labour populist NDPer and pretty apathetic when it came to religious matters. I'd like to say I have a bit more of an obsessive interest inm politics and intellectualized ideology than he does, though, and have much stronger feelings on religious matters (being an anti-theist and theoretical atheist).


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06 Jul 2011, 11:54 pm

Kait wrote:
My dad is very Christian and also very republican and cOnservative. I'm kind of an anarchist I guess as well as a feminist/social justice advocate. I don't really know how i feel about religion. While I think some aspects of it are good, others are horrible. Any other left wing ish aspies living in right wing households???


Yep. There is a huge gap between what I believe and what my parents believe. Mostly with my dad though.

I'm on the very liberal end when it comes to politics. I've had people tell me that I'm pretty much a socialist, and I really can't disagree. As far as religion goes, I'm a goddess worshipping Pagan. I consider myself a feminist too :D , and I'm very concerned about the environment and alternative forms of energy. I'm also a sociologist in the making with an interest in gender studies.

My dad is the opposite: he is a very conservative Republican and, a serious Christian who believes that society is morally degrading by the hour and that the end of the world is near. He just confessed the other night that he believes women are the root of all evil in the universe (he seriously said that, it wasn't even a joke) :roll: and has no interest at all in the enviroment (I often wonder if he is one of those who believes global warming is a myth). He think's I'm going to burn in hell for not being a Christian, that I'm tossing my chance at higher education away by majoring in a social science, and that I'm some other kind of evil for supporting women's rights and gay rights. 8O

My mom isn't that bad at least. She is just a little bit more accepting.

Watching the news in always fun in my house, because my dad and I usually end up in some or other kind of debate (I do win a lot though, I like to win :D) We usually even end up arguing over which news channel to even watch!

So I'd have to say that you definately aren't alone. :)



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07 Jul 2011, 11:58 am

Kait wrote:
My dad is very Christian and also very republican and cOnservative. I'm kind of an anarchist I guess as well as a feminist/social justice advocate. I don't really know how i feel about religion. While I think some aspects of it are good, others are horrible. Any other left wing ish aspies living in right wing households???


My Dad (alavaha shalom) was a Conservative Jew and very much in favor of FDR and the New Deal. I am a Conservative Jew and I detest the neo-fascist aspects of not only the New Deal but all forms of Welfare State-ism. Proving there is little connection between religion and politics.

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09 Jul 2011, 12:38 am

ruveyn wrote:
Kait wrote:
My dad is very Christian and also very republican and cOnservative. I'm kind of an anarchist I guess as well as a feminist/social justice advocate. I don't really know how i feel about religion. While I think some aspects of it are good, others are horrible. Any other left wing ish aspies living in right wing households???


My Dad (alavaha shalom) was a Conservative Jew and very much in favor of FDR and the New Deal. I am a Conservative Jew and I detest the neo-fascist aspects of not only the New Deal but all forms of Welfare State-ism. Proving there is little connection between religion and politics.

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In what way are welfare states such as Sweden anything like Fascism?



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09 Jul 2011, 12:54 am

My dad was a fascist, racist, sexist alcoholic who thought he could raise us kids as his own personal army platoon. He also hated to go to church.

I'm a more moderate, tolerant, sexist Aspie who thinks that with a little hard work, most people can accomplish their goals. I don't like going to church.

My son is an intellectual, idealistic, anarchistic philosopher and mathematician who thinks that the world would be better off to jettison 90% of the population and start over. He is also an atheist.

Insofar as the topic of this thread is concerned, three generations of my family have low opinions of church-going, and a variety of political views - thus, there is no correlation between religion and politics in my family.


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