Israel vs. Lebanon: How it began

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Is it still ad hominem when you have to attack the person rather than the argument, because the argument is so completely imbecilic, idiotic and just plain wrong that it would be obvious to any person with full command of their mental faculties?

Because that's what's wrong with you. The things you say are THAT STUPID.



They didn't come up until after Israel was already gone. Read some history - start with Wikipedia.

And they do more than have a military? Good for them. Doesn't change the fact that their charter calls for the destruction of Israel, which makes them a terrorist organization - which in turn makes every doctor, nurse, teacher, politician, engineer and more a terrorist.



Horse s**t.

you conveniently forgot that hezbolla also includes suicide bombers, suicide bomber recruits (anywhere from 3 to 40 years old), their recruiters, the crazy priests yelling from the rooftops to kill anyone who isn't a mohammedan and the wack money grubbing greedy politicians who don't want peace

Even the source you mentioned ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah ) shows that Hezbollah formed during Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon. Read some history.

That's a lot of unsupported assertions. I don't do that. I support my assertions. Read: http://leondenarf.freefronthost.com/israelnews.html

Did you actually just claim that there are no Hezbollah suicide bombers, and that their politicians do want peace? That's almost as stupid as the time you claimed Israel was exclusively attacking civilians because they were scared of the Hezbos.

More straw men?

The only straw man present is your argument that I'm using straw men. Every thing I've called you on is something that you've said.

Suicide bombers? Your claim in response to Hezbo suicide bombers was that it was "a lot of unsupported assertions", when in fact even Hezbollah's supporters don't try to claim they don't use suicide bombers.

I did like your website, though. Quotes like...

Really lend credibility to your opinion.

What you need to do, is start coming up with some actual facts instead of collecting random links about so-called atrocities that you never even bother to read. At least, I presume you don't read them, seeing as you seem to be unaware that many of them are different versions of the same story.

I'll say again, all extremists are ignorant and dangerous.

In any conflict, BOTH sides will commit atrocities. Sadly, this is the way people are.

Conflicts also generate further hatred through propoganda, blanket stereotyping etc.. Whenever people stop talking to each other, watch out! Even when a war ends, the polarized hate can live on for generations. Witness the current situation in Northern Ireland or the way parts of Eastern Europe dissolved into civil war with the end of communism.

It is quite possible to be totally biased while observing the truth, if you choose to observe only the truths which fit your ideology. Both of you are choosing to shut out evidence which upsets your pre-determined ideas - you're not lying as such, but you are being selective with the truth.

How about coming up with some ideas which would allow everyone to resolve their differences, rather than perpetuating them?

Disarm Hezbollah and Hamas and have them recognize Israel's right to exist.

As soon as the terrorists ask for peace and put down their guns, there will be peace.

Until they do this, Israel cannot back down in the slightest because it is their very lives on the line in this ongoing conflict.