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Shantih
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02 Sep 2011, 1:19 pm

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You violated international law, it's as simple as that. And not only that, but you also did it while being absolutely knowing of the fact that Japan was OBVIOUSLY going to surrender in a short period of time. Why?

You might think you're being patriotic and American by defending the undeniable and attrocious war crimes your nation has committed, but you're really not, you're just being disrespectful and mean.


Screw international "law". In a war for survival the only law is to not lose. By the way, the U.S. was NOT a signatory to the Geneva convention during WW2. The government chose to observe it when feasible. Harry Truman authorized the use of poison gas against Japan, but the success of the nuclear attacks made that unnecessary.

We should not go to war unless we are determined to win and to win we should use whatever means are necessary to the end. The last one standing is the Winner.

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But you're missing the point which I have conferred thrice now: Japan was going to surrender, and so the attrocities which the Americans afforded them were not only war crimes, but were actually unnecessary for the ultimate victory of the United States.

So are you admitting that you think it's OK to kill innocent civillians, for fun?



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02 Sep 2011, 3:07 pm

Shantih wrote:
But you're missing the point which I have conferred thrice now: Japan was going to surrender, and so the attrocities which the Americans afforded them were not only war crimes, but were actually unnecessary for the ultimate victory of the United States.

So are you admitting that you think it's OK to kill innocent civillians, for fun?


Not for fun. Civilians will be killed collaterally. It is the nature of modern war. Modern war is a brutal and nasty business.

By the way the surrender of Japan was not cut and dried. There was an attempted coup to prevent The Emperor from issuing his orders to stand down. It barely missed succeeding. Had it succeeded the war would have gone on at least another year and Japan would have been invaded. That means another million Americans would have died and God knows how many maimed and torn.

The Japanese militarist were bat-sh*t crazy with their Code of Bushido. They would have fought to the last drop of civilian blood. Think of the Black Knight in -Monty Python and The Holy Grail-.

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02 Sep 2011, 3:32 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Exactly, I don't understand how some Americans find the nuclear bombing of two cities of CIVILIANS as a retaliation of MILITARY losses they had at Pearl Harbour. Even the numbers of causalities are incomparable.

No wonder those same people are the same group who support Israel, they're both morally disgusting.


There were troops and weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Both were legit targets. If conventional bombs were used you would not have said boo, Boo.

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