How The Far-Right Really Sees Geert Wilders

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26 Aug 2011, 2:49 am

Some people think that Pat Condell, Geert Wilders and Anders Behring Breivik are far-right. Even the BBC has started calling Geert Wilders and Anders Breivik far-right which proves that the BBC is run by high school liberals instead of actual journalists.

Here is what the far-right really thinks of Pat Condell, Geert Wilders and Anders Breivik.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Pat_Condell
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Zionist_instigated_Islamohysteria


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26 Aug 2011, 3:06 am

Wilders has a few right wing views of various intensity, but he doesn't really fit in anywhere when compared to the American political spectrum and it sounds like he hasn't carved out a niche there yet either.


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26 Aug 2011, 3:15 am

The term "far-right" has lost all meaning, and is just a buzzword for riling up liberals.



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26 Aug 2011, 3:21 am

Burzum wrote:
The term "far-right" has lost all meaning, and is just a buzzword for riling up liberals.

Far-Right is basically a synonym for fascist.


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26 Aug 2011, 3:23 am

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Far-Right is basically a synonym for fascist.

Which is hilarious, because I tend to describe myself as "far-right", but I'm a libertarian.



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26 Aug 2011, 3:25 am

Burzum wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Far-Right is basically a synonym for fascist.

Which is hilarious, because I tend to describe myself as "far-right", but I'm a libertarian.


Do you support the death penalty?
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?



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26 Aug 2011, 5:05 am

DC wrote:
Do you support the death penalty?

For heinous crimes, yes. I know you're probably going to tell me that contradicts libertarianism, but I'll wait until you've made the argument before I retort.

DC wrote:
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

Pro-choice.



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26 Aug 2011, 9:15 am

Burzum wrote:
DC wrote:
Do you support the death penalty?

For heinous crimes, yes. I know you're probably going to tell me that contradicts libertarianism, but I'll wait until you've made the argument before I retort.

DC wrote:
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

Pro-choice.


But Burzum by your name you must have some like or tolerance for at least the aesthetics of
Odinist style neo-volk fascism
I know I know Varg is not a National Socialist but only because he rejects the socialist part. :)


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26 Aug 2011, 1:32 pm

Burzum wrote:
DC wrote:
Do you support the death penalty?

For heinous crimes, yes. I know you're probably going to tell me that contradicts libertarianism, but I'll wait until you've made the argument before I retort.


No need for the argument, I just don't get it. :D

Over here in Britain we have a blogger called Guido who calls himself a libertarian and has just started a campaign to reintroduce the death penalty.

A chap who calls himself a libertarian and models himself on Guy Fawkes (who was tortured and executed for his anti government activities) wishes to give the state the power to kill it's own citizens.

Personally I don't trust the state as far I can throw it on most things, if you look at the roll out of DNA forensics in the USA, 20 people on death row have had their convictions overturned in the last decade because it was proved that they were completely innocent.

I don't mean they were probably guilty but got let off on a technicality by a bunch of bleeding heart liberals and civil rights campaigners, I mean they were completely and utterly innocent of all charges. Yet the state was intending to kill them.

How can this possibly be acceptable for anyone that values individual freedom over the state?



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26 Aug 2011, 9:24 pm

DC wrote:
Personally I don't trust the state as far I can throw it on most things

It's funny you should say that. I am an anti-statist, and as such in my desired world the law would not be made by any government, but by the community of people. And the death penalty has been a part of community law since tribalism.

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How can this possibly be acceptable for anyone that values individual freedom over the state?

I value individual freedom for those that value the individual freedom of others. When someone violates the freedom of another, they deserve to have their own freedom violated. And for a particularly heinous crime, I don't see any reason why justice should not extend to the death penalty.



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26 Aug 2011, 9:35 pm

The PVV and Pat Condell aren't far-right.

Pat Condell especially isn't - he's an outspoken supporter of centre-right UKIP.



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26 Aug 2011, 9:37 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Burzum wrote:
The term "far-right" has lost all meaning, and is just a buzzword for riling up liberals.

Far-Right is basically a synonym for fascist.


Most of the parties that actually are 'far-right' - i.e. not PVV or DF and certainly not the True Finns or UKIP, but more along the lines of BNP, NF, NPD et al are very, very socialistic in economic terms with a nasty racist streak about them.



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26 Aug 2011, 9:59 pm

Burzum wrote:
And for a particularly heinous crime, I don't see any reason why justice should not extend to the death penalty.


I agree completely that some crimes are heinous enough to justify execution, but I still don't support the death penalty because the state tends to be naturally incompetent and frequently expansive.

With 20 people on death row proved innocent, it is statistical almost certain that the state has executed completely innocent people, most likely hundreds of them.

My desire for innocent people not to be killed by the state is higher my desire for vengeance. Nobody is any safer because a murder is killed instead of being sentenced to 200 years in prison, but at least if you have locked the wrong guy you can apologise 30 years later and release him...