How on earth can israel kill 9 civilians and get away with i

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Israel killed 9 turkish civilians last year and they get away with it.How on earth is this possible?

Why were the "civilians" using metal pipes and knives on Israelis soldiers before the Israelis retaliated with live ammunition. A metal pipe is a deadly weapon, as are knives, so I don't see how you can honestly say the Israelis are at fault.

How on Earth can the Syrian government kill 1000 of their own and get away with it?

ruveyn

Did it?

Though is "at least they are better than Syria" really a nice-sounding argument?

All nations have blood on their hands (in the symbolic sense). That qualification will just have to do.

I am perfectly o.k. with criticism of Israeli policy and actions. What I am not o.k. with is singling Israel out.

ruveyn

Because they picked a fight with Israeli commandos that interdicted the ships and searched for banned items that can be used for terrorism...which they found.

And it's not like the Israelis ended the operation without injuries either.

easy - they weren't really people.

Says who? You?

ruveyn

I find it more than a bit ironic that whenever there is mention about Israel that so many of these soft hearted, tolerant, equality minded liberals are against the existence of Israel as a state.
Here you have a country for a people that have been historically persecuted in one form or another and the left wants to deny them a sandbox in the middle of a bad neighborhood that they can call home.
On top of that they want to deny them the right to protect themselves from neighbors who would just assume wipe them from the face of the earth.
And they screech incessantly about how us conservatives are unfeeling and unfair and equate us to Nazis.
Hmmmm………..

Says basic tribal logic. Not part of your tribe, don't have souls, not really people.

Then by your logic we could rightfully be sympathetic if the Israelis started putting Palestinian children in little pens and raising them for food.

no, I'm saying that's how they get away with it.

Or maybe it's self defense?

Not true. Jews have always accepted pagans to live with them provided the obeyed the Noachic Laws. You are projecting your Nazi psychology onto Jews. That is very perverse. Jews have put up with more sh*t from than enemies than any other people in the world. The only people in the world who have approximated the virtues of Christianity are Jews.

ruveyn

Glad I'm not the only one here that has noticed this.

You know what hasn't happened in this thread? An occurrence of anyione saying Israel shouldn't exist as a state. What we have is people criticizing Israel for its policies, like happens with any country in earth and like conservatives love to do with many targets like Europeans, Russians or the Chinese. I don't get why Israel must be a sacred cow in any discussion in which US people are involved.


For starters it was stupid for them to start their nation just in the middle of everybody wanting them dead. And we love them so much, why couldn't we handle them an Island or a safe territory in US where they wouldn't be surrounded by enemies? No, we had to chose the desert and destabilize the whole area for no actual reason.

This victim card is getting old. Every country in earth has enemies and every country on earth should be evaluated by the same standards. More so, countries that are supposedly your friends should be heralded with a way stronger standard. If a country abuses human rights, you should at least be offended rather than make it evident that the US is a completely unconditional servant of Israel, ready to look away whenever they do any HR abuse. And let us stop pretending that they don't.


By any chance, they should protect themselves. And let's make it clear that they should protect themselves. But starting a HR crisis in Gasa in which civilians starve and are denied medicines is not self-defense. For god's sake, let us stop being stupid.