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Dhawal
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10 Oct 2011, 11:35 pm

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I have an official diagnosis, and I suck at math.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Aspies are supposed to have excellent rote memory. I have practically zero rote memory.



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11 Oct 2011, 2:54 pm

Dhawal wrote:
http://psychcentral.com/lib/2011/debunking-6-myths-about-asperger-syndrome/


This is a really great article! I can't believe all the misunderstandings about us aspies out there in society. I'd love to see many more articles like this be written in the future.



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12 Oct 2011, 11:22 am

Most things people say about aspies sound like they should belong to an RPG manual and not a diagnostics sheet.

Aspies
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+2 Intelligence
+1 Speed
-3 Initiative
+4 Repetitive hand-flapping



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12 Oct 2011, 3:05 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Most things people say about aspies sound like they should belong to an RPG manual and not a diagnostics sheet.

Aspies
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+2 Intelligence
+1 Speed
-3 Initiative
+4 Repetitive hand-flapping


Good sir, all I can say to that is,

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12 Oct 2011, 9:50 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Most things people say about aspies sound like they should belong to an RPG manual and not a diagnostics sheet.

Aspies
Racial Traits:
+2 Intelligence
+1 Speed
-3 Initiative
+4 Repetitive hand-flapping

I swear man, you nailed it. It's never about what we are like or what we feel ...



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13 Oct 2011, 1:46 am

Gedrene wrote:
Most things people say about aspies sound like they should belong to an RPG manual and not a diagnostics sheet.

Aspies
Racial Traits:
+2 Intelligence
+1 Speed
-3 Initiative
+4 Repetitive hand-flapping



LOL!



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14 Oct 2011, 9:49 am

I lack any kind of need of social contact and I'm unable to feel loneliness.

They should also have debunked the "high IQ" myth. Most of us have an IQ under 90.



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14 Oct 2011, 10:37 am

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I lack any kind of need of social contact and I'm unable to feel loneliness.

They should also have debunked the "high IQ" myth. Most of us have an IQ under 90.


But being that so many of us are such "little professors," obsessed with a narrow subject matter that we'll talk about incessantly, it gives the impression that we're geniuses.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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14 Oct 2011, 1:13 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
I lack any kind of need of social contact and I'm unable to feel loneliness.

They should also have debunked the "high IQ" myth. Most of us have an IQ under 90.


But being that so many of us are such "little professors," obsessed with a narrow subject matter that we'll talk about incessantly, it gives the impression that we're geniuses.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


The problem with "special inerest" are that they are totally useless and worthless in reality. They often focus on a very narrow and fragmented detail of a subject and they are often just an easy escape from social interaction with other people. The best thing parents and teachers can do with these "interests" are to ignore them and not take them seriously. Giving the students an easier special education based on practial work training in unskilled work such as gardening work, etc. is a much better and realistic option for these students.



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14 Oct 2011, 11:20 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Lonermutant wrote:
I lack any kind of need of social contact and I'm unable to feel loneliness.

They should also have debunked the "high IQ" myth. Most of us have an IQ under 90.


But being that so many of us are such "little professors," obsessed with a narrow subject matter that we'll talk about incessantly, it gives the impression that we're geniuses.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

This might be of interest -
http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/10/03 ... 29999.html



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14 Oct 2011, 11:38 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
The problem with "special inerest" are that they are totally useless and worthless in reality. They often focus on a very narrow and fragmented detail of a subject and they are often just an easy escape from social interaction with other people. The best thing parents and teachers can do with these "interests" are to ignore them and not take them seriously. Giving the students an easier special education based on practial work training in unskilled work such as gardening work, etc. is a much better and realistic option for these students.

Hmmm. There are a lot of varied opinions within the aspie community itself.

I believe (with some others) that reality is not, or should not be defined by the NTs only. The focus on details can be useful in many fields, where there isn't much option yet. By employing aspies in those fields, NTs can benefit immensely, while providing work for aspies that they can do without going against their instincts. E.g. Aspiritech (software testing). Once they gain confidence doing this, the social awkwardness decreases (my observation, no research backing really).

As far as the interests are concerned, many of these can provide the industry with experts they need, though not all. Ignoring the interests should not be harmful, but discouraging might be. For the remaining small portion of aspies, your special education option seems really good.
"... based on practial work training in unskilled work such as gardening work, etc. is a much better and realistic option for these students." I agree.



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14 Oct 2011, 11:46 pm

The problem with IQ tests is that they are typically slanted towards NT type thinking, so Aspies are often at a disadvantage when taking them. Another aspect is that there are many Aspies with a high IQ, but the lack of social skills makes it difficult to use that IQ to any advantage in a job. Aspies & NTs come in all levels of IQ.



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30 Oct 2011, 6:45 pm

Eu freaking reka!

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6. Myth: They lack empathy.

Fact: “Empathy is a complicated concept,” Gaus said. Some researchers have divided empathy into four components: two called “cognitive empathy” and two called “emotional empathy.” People with Asperger’s struggle with cognitive empathy but have no problem with emotional empathy, she said.


been trying to get that one over to some people for a while.


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31 Oct 2011, 9:50 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Most things people say about aspies sound like they should belong to an RPG manual and not a diagnostics sheet.

Aspies
Racial Traits:
+2 Intelligence
+1 Speed
-3 Initiative
+4 Repetitive hand-flapping


Add:

-2 Charisma (a central trait of Aspies)
-1 Dexterity/Agility
+2 to saving rolls against mind-control, illusions, etc. (including spells and items with these effects); use appropriate game terminology to determine appropriate type of save.



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01 Nov 2011, 10:55 am

Dhawal wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I have an official diagnosis, and I suck at math.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Aspies are supposed to have excellent rote memory. I have practically zero rote memory.

I just saw on another part of wrong planet where someone said we have hyperfocus, tangential this, another guy was talking about stubbornness and selfishness.

To be honest this is a load of bull. Autism is about as cogent as an anarchist presidential election.



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01 Nov 2011, 2:44 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Dhawal wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I have an official diagnosis, and I suck at math.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Aspies are supposed to have excellent rote memory. I have practically zero rote memory.

I just saw on another part of wrong planet where someone said we have hyperfocus, tangential this, another guy was talking about stubbornness and selfishness.

To be honest this is a load of bull. Autism is about as cogent as an anarchist presidential election.


:lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer