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04 Oct 2006, 10:47 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
...but I was talking about bass-ackwards countries that are not trying to get their economies going but rather exist in some unstable state. I definitely agree with your point for the most part, as it holds true in much of Asia, the Americas and such. I was just pointing out that some areas are not really growing and saying why so that way nobody blames the wrong culprit.


Zimbabwe is an example. It used to export food to other african countries, now it can't even feed itself, 100% due to Robert Mugabe.


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05 Oct 2006, 12:54 am

Scrapheap seems like he's a lot more of a troll than Aeturnus quite frankly.

Aeturnus is also right.



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05 Oct 2006, 1:07 am

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...By displacing local populations from their lands and robbing them of their self-sufficiency, corporations create overcrowded labor markets of desperate people ...

I think North Korea, Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe and and locals struggling for power in Somalia and Sudan have done more of this than GE or Nike. Not that GE And Nike probably wouldn't like the opportunity, but the locals are doing a pretty good job of it themselves without any help from multinational corporations.


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05 Oct 2006, 1:08 am

Xuincherguixe wrote:
Scrapheap seems like he's a lot more of a troll than Aeturnus quite frankly.

Aeturnus is also right.


One thing I had a problem with the artical is how it blamed US farm policy only. France
and I guess other European countries have been dumping wheat below market price.
Destroying the main industry in delevoping coutries (farming) also.

That the only thing I know . I'm sure a point per point comparison will show plenty of
slimeball things Eurpean coutries are doing also.



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05 Oct 2006, 1:24 am

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.. it blamed US farm policy only. France
and I guess other European countries have been dumping wheat below market price.
Destroying the main industry in delevoping coutries (farming) also....

Primary industries are Australia's main exports. As a small open economy, we have to compete head to head with EU and US subsidies, quotas and other unfair trade practices. Sometimes we whinge about it, but not too often. It doesn't stop our farmers making a living.

IMO the real problem is corrupt governments and overpopulation.


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05 Oct 2006, 1:36 am

BazzaMcKenzie wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
.. it blamed US farm policy only. France
and I guess other European countries have been dumping wheat below market price.
Destroying the main industry in delevoping coutries (farming) also....

Primary industries are Australia's main exports. As a small open economy, we have to compete head to head with EU and US subsidies, quotas and other unfair trade practices. Sometimes we whinge about it, but not too often. It doesn't stop our farmers making a living.

IMO the real problem is corrupt governments and overpopulation.


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05 Oct 2006, 2:42 am

[quote="Awesomelyglorious] I was just pointing out that some areas are not really growing and saying why so that way nobody blames the wrong culprit.[/quote]

Ah. My mistake and please accept my apology. I was under the impression that you were blaming capitalism/the west for their admittedly awful lives. There is nothing in the west that could not happen in those countries, if their goverments would allow it.



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06 Oct 2006, 2:43 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
Ah. My mistake and please accept my apology. I was under the impression that you were blaming capitalism/the west for their admittedly awful lives. There is nothing in the west that could not happen in those countries, if their goverments would allow it.

Misunderstandings happen.