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29 Nov 2011, 10:33 pm

For the past 7 years every time I've tried to accomplish things that I REALLY want to do I feel too tired to sit up to work on it. I've tried going to the library but I can't work with people around or in a chair at all (I have to feel as cozy as some kind of den animal).

Is this normal with depression or is ADD a factor. The only thing I ever successfully do is musical stuff that has to be done in a certain time frame to be music at all.

This isn't even my main issue but figured might as well try to see if I can do something on this front.



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29 Nov 2011, 10:40 pm

It could be the inattentive type. I get too tired to do things too and need to be able to do things at certain times. And away from people.
How do you focus on written words? Do you just feel like 'ugh, too long' or just a kind of fatigue over you that gets worse with every line you try to read?


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29 Nov 2011, 10:40 pm

I have ADHD and I deal with the same thing. No motivation, low or no energy. It doesn't necessarily mean you have depression.



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29 Nov 2011, 10:45 pm

Yeah, I do feel like 'ugh, too long' and in general I am a really impatient and unfocussed reader. It takes a LOT of focus to read things. Even with books I love I am constantly counting the pages to see when the chapter will be over, they always seem way too long.

I do have depression also but valuable to know two people with AD(H)D have the same issue.



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29 Nov 2011, 10:57 pm

Yeah it's definitely an issue with ADHD, or ADD. I think it's possible that some people with ADHD are misdiagnosed with depression. It can look like you are depressed when really your brain is just underaroused. It can feel like you are half asleep all the time. Hyperactitvity is the body's way of trying to wake up the brain, but not everyone gets hyperactive. I only get hyper if I'm really interested in something. I was diagnosed with the inattentive type of ADHD.



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29 Nov 2011, 10:58 pm

If this is only been happening for 7 years then it probably isn't ADD. Fatigue could be caused by depression but that's a long time to be that fatigued. My suggestion is to write down all the symptoms you have, along with such things as is it constant, etc. Then take your list and see a doctor. Are you doing anything for the depression?


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29 Nov 2011, 11:33 pm

I actually went to the doctor and they did a bunch of blood tests and nothing was amiss. Yes I take an antidepressant. My depression has been severe for seven years also. Not sure, I went from a really structured school environment (through 12th grade) and doing well in it to not functioning at all after that. But I have always been unbelievably disorganized. Even when I was getting good grades I pretty much had a backpack full of loose papers and papers stuck into any old folder. I don't know how I ever found anything in there. It was ridiculous.



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29 Nov 2011, 11:39 pm

This is often a problem for me. I will have no energy or motivation to start projects or activities that I know I will enjoy, and then when I realise that my window of available time has been missed because of my inability to get started, I am depressed. :?


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29 Nov 2011, 11:53 pm

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For the past 7 years every time I've tried to accomplish things that I REALLY want to do I feel too tired to sit up to work on it. I've tried going to the library but I can't work with people around or in a chair at all (I have to feel as cozy as some kind of den animal).

Is this normal with depression or is ADD a factor. The only thing I ever successfully do is musical stuff that has to be done in a certain time frame to be music at all.

This isn't even my main issue but figured might as well try to see if I can do something on this front.


Going only on what you've described, I would not jump to the ADD conclusion. There are several other things that could cause what you've described here, including, but not limited to Depression. ADD is more about being easily distracted while trying to focus on important tasks that don't capture your intense interest, but being very difficult to distract from tasks that do capture your intense interest.

I'm not saying you don't have that going on, but if you do, that isn't what I see in your post.

If you want to know for sure, browse around the following web site. There is some exaggeration of ADD there in some of the videos on it by actors who actually have ADD, but there's a lot of great resources there, including a screening video not done by the actors. If you feel like "That's me!" then you probably do have ADD, but you've got to be honest with yourself.

http://www.totallyadd.com


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30 Nov 2011, 12:01 am

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Hyperactitvity is the body's way of trying to wake up the brain, but not everyone gets hyperactive.

Really? I haven't heard of that. People with hyperactive ADHD can't focus for different reasons than the inattentive type. My brain can be too awake, it's buzzing and wants to focus on something but can't. There's a small window opened where when I can focus on something I can hyperfocus on it and waste a few hours on it.

So I don't think hyperactivity is the body's way to wake up the brain. I think it has more to do with what the available neurotransmitters are doing. Possibly too much dopamine? I'm not sure. I think it has to do with hypersensitivity and needing constant stimulation. Stimulants bring a type of equilibrium which is why they settle down hyperactivity and give energy to inattentive ADHD.

Inattentive ADHD however, is when the brain in work mode falls alseep (or is on that wavelength) and that type of mental fatigue doesn't occur in hyperactive ADHD.

I'm combined so I have the best of both worlds. When hyper I can direct my focus and actually get things done, possibly missing out some finer details because I'm so impatient.

I mean if you have some study backing up your claim I'd be glad to read it. I've just never heard of it being put that way before.


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30 Nov 2011, 12:09 am

Depression does cause this as well.

I have this trait, developed it with my depression, and have been tested for ADHD and do not meet the criteria.



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30 Nov 2011, 12:10 am

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For the past 7 years every time I've tried to accomplish things that I REALLY want to do I feel too tired to sit up to work on it. I've tried going to the library but I can't work with people around or in a chair at all (I have to feel as cozy as some kind of den animal).

Is this normal with depression or is ADD a factor. The only thing I ever successfully do is musical stuff that has to be done in a certain time frame to be music at all.

This isn't even my main issue but figured might as well try to see if I can do something on this front.


Going only on what you've described, I would not jump to the ADD conclusion. There are several other things that could cause what you've described here, including, but not limited to Depression. ADD is more about being easily distracted while trying to focus on important tasks that don't capture your intense interest, but being very difficult to distract from tasks that do capture your intense interest.

I'm not saying you don't have that going on, but if you do, that isn't what I see in your post.

If you want to know for sure, browse around the following web site. There is some exaggeration of ADD there in some of the videos on it by actors who actually have ADD, but there's a lot of great resources there, including a screening video not done by the actors. If you feel like "That's me!" then you probably do have ADD, but you've got to be honest with yourself.

http://www.totallyadd.com


Two words: executive dysfunction. That is ADHD in a nutshell. Problems with motivating yourself to do things unrelated to depression, impulsive behaviour, poor emotional regulation, very poor short term memory and not always a good long term memory, dyslexic-like symptoms, social issues (but not to the extent of AS), poor regulation of mental attention and energy, and overall I think problems processing information.


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30 Nov 2011, 12:32 am

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I mean if you have some study backing up your claim I'd be glad to read it. I've just never heard of it being put that way before.


It's not a "claim" it's my own experience. I don't need studies to back up my own experiences. I don't to get into any kind of debate here so please back off.



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30 Nov 2011, 12:45 am

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MrXxx wrote:
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For the past 7 years every time I've tried to accomplish things that I REALLY want to do I feel too tired to sit up to work on it. I've tried going to the library but I can't work with people around or in a chair at all (I have to feel as cozy as some kind of den animal).

Is this normal with depression or is ADD a factor. The only thing I ever successfully do is musical stuff that has to be done in a certain time frame to be music at all.

This isn't even my main issue but figured might as well try to see if I can do something on this front.


Going only on what you've described, I would not jump to the ADD conclusion. There are several other things that could cause what you've described here, including, but not limited to Depression. ADD is more about being easily distracted while trying to focus on important tasks that don't capture your intense interest, but being very difficult to distract from tasks that do capture your intense interest.

I'm not saying you don't have that going on, but if you do, that isn't what I see in your post.

If you want to know for sure, browse around the following web site. There is some exaggeration of ADD there in some of the videos on it by actors who actually have ADD, but there's a lot of great resources there, including a screening video not done by the actors. If you feel like "That's me!" then you probably do have ADD, but you've got to be honest with yourself.

http://www.totallyadd.com


Two words: executive dysfunction. That is ADHD in a nutshell. Problems with motivating yourself to do things unrelated to depression, impulsive behaviour, poor emotional regulation, very poor short term memory and not always a good long term memory, dyslexic-like symptoms, social issues (but not to the extent of AS), poor regulation of mental attention and energy, and overall I think problems processing information.


Yes, everything you mentioned is part of it, but executive function problems exist with many different disorders. If that's ADHD "in a nutshell," then a lot of disorders fit into that nutshell. All I was telling the OP is that going ONLY on what he wrote, is not enough. Most of what you listed here, are not mentioned or even indicated in his post. I do see the disorganization factor now, and that definitely fits.

How about we just let him take a look at the site, or point him to some other good resources and see what he thinks?

I never said he didn't have it. I only said there isn't enough to go on. He knows more than we do. Let him look for himself and decide.


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