Is birth control a sin and wrong ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control
No.....procreation is.
Both birth control and abortion (at any time, for any reason....punch a late-term fetus for Jesus )....are gifts from the Ancient Ones who rightfully want nothing more than to see even the memory of humankind's existence wiped from the cosmos.
Just a friendly reminder from your local anti-natalist misanthrope.
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Onan's sin was tantamount to attempted murder. In those days, the Hebrews (Onan was just a step or two down from the patriarchs) didn't have the same concept of the afterlife that the Jews of Jesus' time and later Christians had. For them, the extinction of a male bloodline meant the complete and total death and non-existence of that person, so it was important that his name lived on after him. What Onan did highly dishonorable not merely to himself, but to his brother who did not produce children with Tamar. In the context of that day and time, Onan just as well tried to posthumously kill him.
That's just the legal aspect of Onan's sin. The social aspect is that he used his brother's widow for sex but didn't give her children.
And in some versions of that tale, say in jewish scripture, he was struck down by his in-laws, not by God.
And where in scripture is that written?
Onan's sin was tantamount to attempted murder. In those days, the Hebrews (Onan was just a step or two down from the patriarchs) didn't have the same concept of the afterlife that the Jews of Jesus' time and later Christians had. For them, the extinction of a male bloodline meant the complete and total death and non-existence of that person, so it was important that his name lived on after him. What Onan did highly dishonorable not merely to himself, but to his brother who did not produce children with Tamar. In the context of that day and time, Onan just as well tried to posthumously kill him.
It's not a thumbs-up for prostitution, btw. I don't know where you get that idea. What Tamar did was deceitful and wrong. It also shows the fallibility of the patriarchs, especially since Judah had a taste for prostitutes (yeah, like we're supposed to believe that was the first time he ever did that?). In the end, however, he got what he deserved. The Bible doesn't ever endorse prostitution. But the Bible doesn't whitewash the facts, either. If someone had carnal knowledge of a prostitute (or someone posing as one), the Bible simply and plainly mentions that it happened. It's like if you watch the evening news or read the paper and there's a report of a burglary or a murder, would you infer that the newspaper or news program is endorsing burglary or murder?
But doesnt the Bible does say "better to cast thy seed into the belly of a whore than upon the ground."?
Not exactly endorsing prostitution, but its clearly saying that its the lesser of two evils when compared to spanking the monkey!
A microscopic tadpole, with half the chromosomes necessary to make a human, with an outboard motor.
I don't consider that a human, and I'm not even sure I consider it alive.
It's a transportation machine, not a living creature:
It does not think, and it does not produce more of its kind.
Further, 300 million of them die during every ejaculation, even when attempting pregnancy. We can debate whether or not God considers those 300 million sperm to be 300 million human beings dying during every male orgasm, but I think that line of thinking get silly rather quickly when you believe the Bible about the character of God. "Might as well design a system that kills lots of people for no reason" is not the character of the God described by any part of the Bible.
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No. I had never even heard that one before, or I would certainly have underlined the passage.
I typed your quote into google.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/sayings.cfm#belly
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control
No.....procreation is.
Both birth control and abortion (at any time, for any reason....punch a late-term fetus for Jesus )....are gifts from the Ancient Ones who rightfully want nothing more than to see even the memory of humankind's existence wiped from the cosmos.
Just a friendly reminder from your local anti-natalist misanthrope.
Horus! You're back.
I am surprised anyone remembers me.
It's been many moons. I have much to say as soon as I can find the time to say it. I've actually been employed for nearly a year now after 18 months of unemployment.
Hope you are well!! !
I remenber you! And I am happy that you're back.
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No!
The world is over populated already. People use birth control to prevent childbirth.
More children means the population will grow. The world population is expected to be 7 billion by 2012.
I don't understand how it can be morally wrong to anyone because it does not kill the fetus. birth control prevents the fetus from forming during sex.
It is not abortion which is killing the fetus.
The only reason catholics are against it is because they want their religion to outnumber all the others.
No other reason would make any sense.
It's the Old Testament. It doesn't count anymore ... except when it comes to homosexuality and worshiping God and stuff like that.
You know how it goes.
teach them the scriptures? anything but that!
we were debating gays in the military today in my economy class and one girl tried suggesting its wrong because America is based in Christianity and the forefathers wanted us to follow scriptures which involved killing homosexuals and cripples as the bible demands even though in truth America is a Secular nation as George Washington himself even said and America believes in Equallity for ALL men which the bible is against
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teach them the scriptures? anything but that!
we were debating gays in the military today in my economy class and one girl tried suggesting its wrong because America is based in Christianity and the forefathers wanted us to follow scriptures which involved killing homosexuals and cripples as the bible demands even though in truth America is a Secular nation as George Washington himself even said and America believes in Equallity for ALL men which the bible is against
Agreed. *nods head in agreement*
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teach them the scriptures? anything but that!
we were debating gays in the military today in my economy class and one girl tried suggesting its wrong because America is based in Christianity and the forefathers wanted us to follow scriptures which involved killing homosexuals and cripples as the bible demands even though in truth America is a Secular nation as George Washington himself even said and America believes in Equallity for ALL men which the bible is against
Sounds like that girl doesn't really know what she's talking about.
I do think that the forefathers built our nation on Christian principles. But also keep in mind they were also children of the Enlightenment. So it's not JUST about Christian values. It's more complicated than that.
I don't get where the Bible is against "Equality for ALL." Ecclesiastes teaches that Sheol is the fate of the rich man and the poor man. When the disciples argued about who would be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven, Jesus told them that in order to be the greatest, you must first become the least. Also, the greatest on earth would be the least in heaven. So... How can the greatest (richest) on earth become the least and the least (poorest) on earth be the greatest in heaven if they all share in God's providence? It's not a competition. Christians are to be servants to each other and not show favoritism. And if all brothers and sisters in Christ are servants and children of God the Father, then we are all equals before God. Clearly the Bible does teach equality.
Killing homosexuals is Hebrew law for the purpose of an Israelite theocracy. That has nothing to do with Gentiles/Christians.
Killing cripples? Where is that in the Bible at all? The only thing about cripples is that they are ritually unclean for the purpose of serving in the temple. That doesn't make them outcasts of society. And...again...that's Hebrew ceremonial law. That's not for Christians.
Advice against homosexuality in the NT has to do with moral behavior that is acceptable for Christians. If you don't like that homosexuality is considered wrong, then that's your issue. I can't help you with that one. But where is it written in the NT that Jesus instructed His followers to kill homosexuals?
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