Does anyone hate electronic music like I do?

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20 Mar 2015, 4:19 pm

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i listen to some weird stuff, but none of it is unpleasant to me. In fact, it helps me get my mind off things. However my ears are very sensitive and detect all kinds of electronic artifacts, such as:
noise reduction

if noise reduction is done properly* it is undetectable except in direct a/b comparison with raw source material.
*meaning not in a typically ham-handed fashion.

it isn't done well all too often. And i know it can. I have actually used it in mastering a couple of times on some rather dire bootleg recordings to rescue the content, usually audience recordings from the 1960s.



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20 Mar 2015, 4:28 pm

ZombyWoof wrote:
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i listen to some weird stuff, but none of it is unpleasant to me. In fact, it helps me get my mind off things. However my ears are very sensitive and detect all kinds of electronic artifacts, such as:
noise reduction

if noise reduction is done properly* it is undetectable except in direct a/b comparison with raw source material.
*meaning not in a typically ham-handed fashion.

it isn't done well all too often. And i know it can. I have actually used it in mastering a couple of times on some rather dire bootleg recordings to rescue the content, usually audience recordings from the 1960s.

yes, I have been hobbying at this sort of thing since the 90s, and have heard some atrocious examples of poorly-done NR on major archival record labels such as RCA bluebird. the key offender is decrackling algorithms [in sonic solutions NONOISE™, as well as improper use of the CEDAR declicker] that are pushed beyond their point of effectiveness, which generally chops holes in brasses. also just as bad, the use of CEDAR dehissing on material that is beyond what the algorithm can handle without introducing severe aliasing artifacts.



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21 Mar 2015, 1:02 am

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I absolutely cannot stand electronic music. Any kind of dance music, rap, techno, pop-rock, etc. that is made or heavily influenced by computers sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. This can sometimes be difficult in social situations as whenever it is playing I automatically insult it and ask for it to be changed. I don't want to appreciate it, that is not the problem, I was just wondering if anyone else hears the same awful noise that I do when I listen to it.


If no one has already done so, might I suggest Boards of Canada? They are an Electronic/Ambient duo from Scotland, but are unlike any electronic music I've heard. No irritating high pitched squeals, no 4-on-the-floor dance beats, no wubwubwub crap. Their music is.....soft.....warm......nostalgic. Seriously. I hated electronic music before these guys. Their music is more organic somehow. Just give 'em a shot, eh?



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21 Mar 2015, 5:29 pm

>Hating all electronic music

Lol. First of all, I find it hilarious when people say they "hate" one particular genre completely - especially something as varied as EDM and Electronic Music. I mean if people aren't into it, sure thing, that's no problem. The music you like is based upon your personality and own taste, but saying one type of music is "bad" in general without properly exploring it is really - really - immature, lol.

I personally cannot stand most (most) metal music. I like some progressive metal, and some sludge/doom metal, but it just isn't my thing. The artists are technically skilled though, as are people who hate electronica. And if anyone in this thread thinks its as simple as pushing a button and making a song - please make an electro/dance track and upload it. If it's so easy - I'd love to hear it. ;)


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21 Mar 2015, 9:13 pm

Subjekt_9 wrote:
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I absolutely cannot stand electronic music. Any kind of dance music, rap, techno, pop-rock, etc. that is made or heavily influenced by computers sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. This can sometimes be difficult in social situations as whenever it is playing I automatically insult it and ask for it to be changed. I don't want to appreciate it, that is not the problem, I was just wondering if anyone else hears the same awful noise that I do when I listen to it.


If no one has already done so, might I suggest Boards of Canada? They are an Electronic/Ambient duo from Scotland, but are unlike any electronic music I've heard. No irritating high pitched squeals, no 4-on-the-floor dance beats, no wubwubwub crap. Their music is.....soft.....warm......nostalgic. Seriously. I hated electronic music before these guys. Their music is more organic somehow. Just give 'em a shot, eh?


Just quoting this because Boards of Canada have been my favorite musical group since when I first heard them in 05. I've listened to so many of their songs so many times. Excellent, excellent duo.



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21 Mar 2015, 9:51 pm

I draw the line at "auto-tune", myself. It makes everything fake and boring. I would much rather listen to a mediocre vocalist strut whatever style they have than try to nod my head to some rinky-dink auto-tune BS.



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22 Mar 2015, 6:50 pm

Ciphergarm wrote:
Subjekt_9 wrote:
SticksAndSkins wrote:
I absolutely cannot stand electronic music. Any kind of dance music, rap, techno, pop-rock, etc. that is made or heavily influenced by computers sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. This can sometimes be difficult in social situations as whenever it is playing I automatically insult it and ask for it to be changed. I don't want to appreciate it, that is not the problem, I was just wondering if anyone else hears the same awful noise that I do when I listen to it.


If no one has already done so, might I suggest Boards of Canada? They are an Electronic/Ambient duo from Scotland, but are unlike any electronic music I've heard. No irritating high pitched squeals, no 4-on-the-floor dance beats, no wubwubwub crap. Their music is.....soft.....warm......nostalgic. Seriously. I hated electronic music before these guys. Their music is more organic somehow. Just give 'em a shot, eh?


Just quoting this because Boards of Canada have been my favorite musical group since when I first heard them in 05. I've listened to so many of their songs so many times. Excellent, excellent duo.


Agreed. They've become my Xanax in audio form :D I have their entire discography on my NookHD and I listen to them all the time at work to block out all the outside BS and just get lost in my head......helps with the anxiety a lot. I just wish they'd release those 400+ tracks they say they have just lying around the house :(



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01 Apr 2015, 9:03 am

Nooooo 8O :o



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02 Apr 2015, 10:02 pm

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>Hating all electronic music

Lol. First of all, I find it hilarious when people say they "hate" one particular genre completely - especially something as varied as EDM and Electronic Music. I mean if people aren't into it, sure thing, that's no problem. The music you like is based upon your personality and own taste, but saying one type of music is "bad" in general without properly exploring it is really - really - immature, lol.

I personally cannot stand most (most) metal music. I like some progressive metal, and some sludge/doom metal, but it just isn't my thing. The artists are technically skilled though, as are people who hate electronica. And if anyone in this thread thinks its as simple as pushing a button and making a song - please make an electro/dance track and upload it. If it's so easy - I'd love to hear it. ;)


Actually writing a dance track IS easy. Especially these days because you can download pre-made loops or whatever and basically treated like a paint-by-numbers kit. Download loop packs, put them in whatever order you like and voila you have a song. And patching in drum patterns in to a sequencer is a piece of cake as its all the same with slight variations.

The only hard part about writing a dance song is just the final stages like mixing and mastering........unless of course you're like millions of other people out there that slap a preset on it and call it a day then.....nevermind.

Thats why I don't write dance music *shrugs*.



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03 Apr 2015, 10:00 pm

Subjekt_9 wrote:
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>Hating all electronic music

Lol. First of all, I find it hilarious when people say they "hate" one particular genre completely - especially something as varied as EDM and Electronic Music. I mean if people aren't into it, sure thing, that's no problem. The music you like is based upon your personality and own taste, but saying one type of music is "bad" in general without properly exploring it is really - really - immature, lol.

I personally cannot stand most (most) metal music. I like some progressive metal, and some sludge/doom metal, but it just isn't my thing. The artists are technically skilled though, as are people who hate electronica. And if anyone in this thread thinks its as simple as pushing a button and making a song - please make an electro/dance track and upload it. If it's so easy - I'd love to hear it. ;)


Actually writing a dance track IS easy. Especially these days because you can download pre-made loops or whatever and basically treated like a paint-by-numbers kit. Download loop packs, put them in whatever order you like and voila you have a song. And patching in drum patterns in to a sequencer is a piece of cake as its all the same with slight variations.

The only hard part about writing a dance song is just the final stages like mixing and mastering........unless of course you're like millions of other people out there that slap a preset on it and call it a day then.....nevermind.

Thats why I don't write dance music *shrugs*.



To make dance music is easy...

But will anyone want to Dance to your music?? That's another matter.



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03 Apr 2015, 10:12 pm

I grew up during the 80's, so it was kind of hard to avoid anyway. I had a real fascination with synthesizers and computerized sounds even as a little kid. As a teenager I owned at least two electronic keyboards. Also if I enjoy dancing at all, it's usually to music that's fast and has a beat. But I like like a lot of different kinds of music - except country, and rap that just sounds like a bunch of angry guys swearing.



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24 Apr 2015, 3:32 pm

I loved electronica, mostly from 2006 to 2010 or 2011. Electronica was awesome especially Daft Punk's Discovery and some of the electronic influences that were included in J-pop. I remember some of the Euro electronica like the song Wonderland by DJ Pulse, Ravers Fantasy and Sandstorm. But I started to loose interest when Hollywood got their grubby hands on it and dubstep became the major component. Then everyone was into it, the music was combined wth generes that I don't like and dubstep sounds like the worst part of a dot matrix printer. It would have been cool if they were using the printers to make the sounds!



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07 May 2015, 1:21 am

I love it! I create it even.

I can say that Uplifting Trance music saved me during some of my most depressive episodes.



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27 May 2015, 12:53 pm

I like it. No, I love it. Surprisingly I didn't close my ears when I went to a dj music festival HAHA

Nah, my parents hate it too. Only me in the family who is really in love with edm especially for house music heheehe


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